I'm interested. I need to know about powertrain improvements, if any, before making a decision.

 

If they would give us a diesel here in the states I would be all over it. Without that though, I only have 30,000 miles on my 2008 so I figure that I still have a long life ahead with the one I have.

 

That's pretty much it for me too......

 

If I were in the market right now, I'd choose between this and the Ford Fiesta hatch. Tough decision. Fiesta = 17,460 with Sync, Patriot=18,830 or higher depending on the price increase this year. Both automatics, but Patriot would only have manual windows and locks. On the other hand, it would have all wheel drive and 9 inches ground clearance.

I'm one of the few people who's definitely glad they restyled it. I like the twotone, and the new front and rear bumpers. I think they're a cleaner design, less blocky and more attractive.

The addition of MultiAir would give the Patriot the mileage it needs to compete against the Fiesta for my dollars. I'd like something more like 24 or 25 mpg EPA with all wheel drive.

Price is another thing for me. Edmunds is reporting 17,795 with 2.4 I4, manual transmission and front-wheel-drive. I'm hoping if it really is that much it has standard power locks and windows with the Sport package, 'cause that's an enormous price increase. 2010s are going around 16K similarly equipped. :/

I voted that I'd take one, but realistically I'd only do it if it had MultiAir, because at some point we know that will be an option, and will increase mileage. I see no reason to buy one right now only to kick myself once they improve the powertrain.

 

i choose my 08 patriot over the 2011....but ill take a jeep truck.

 

Don't like front as much with the plastic that covers all the bottom of the jeep, looks cheap. And I've done so much to my 08 I wouldn't want to start over.

 

I voted no I wouldn't, but I would if I could get a diesel, Freedom Drive II AND the lifetime power train warranty. Otherwise I'm sticking with my 08 and letting Jeep pay for major mechanical failures.

 

I feel the same way. I would rather no lose the lifetime warranty on the power train for the little changes of the 2011.

I would like to see the diesel enter the Patriot with some power train adjustments.

 

I will buy a Patriot if one of the following were to happen:

- They increased the fuel capacity
- it was given MultiAr or Pentastar Engine
- They offered a diesel in North America
- they got rid of the cvt and replaced with a manual (FDII) or regular automatic.

I've owned two Jeeps and my current Cherokee is wearing out. Interior, improvements, however, don't fix the real issues - an unresponsive powertrain and lousy fuel capacity. If one of the above does not happen, I will buy a Suzuki Grand Vitara - one of the few compact (REAL) SUVs left. Timeframe is two months or less - any more news on the 2011 Pat?

 

The only thing or real value to me in the 11 vs the 10 is the rear bumper but I like have the "Patriot" engraved on the bumper. I don't like the steering wheel, but I must admit that I might have preferred that when I was 15. The change in the grill is really not noticeable to me so that wouldn't matter either way. I think the solid color looks better on the older models but it would be nice to have the rough black plastic on the bottom for rock chips. I had my bumper covered with clear bra so I would still prefer that.
Given the choice at the same price I might be willing to make the change just to have model that was one year newer and to have the rear bumper, then I could live with the changes that I don't like. Since I bought mine at $3500 off invoice with the 2 rebates at the time, I don't think I could ever touch the 11 at the price I paid and there is no way these minor changes would be worth an extra $3500 to me.

 

I'll be looking at the '11 models soon. I have over 53,000 miles on mine, and a little over 2 years old, so miles are adding up, reducing my trade in value. If I were sure Jeep was going to keep the Patriot, I might hang on a bit longer, but we keep hearing 2012 is the last year, so not sure how long I'll wait.

I do agree with Todde though about holding onto one with the lifetime power train warranty might be a good idea. I do have that warranty on mine. But gee, the only parts that seem to fail after the 36K warranty are front end parts anyway, from what I've seen, not the power train, so who knows. I do wonder if the front end parts are the same, or if they upgraded those???

 

I like some of the changes compared to my 2008, but I would could not see spending the money... I only got my beast a few months ago and got a very good deal on a car with ~13,000 miles.

 

I won't, unless they produce a diesel Pat.

 

If new euro-pat (diesel) version would have FDII available, I would trade my 2008 PAtriot for 2011 as soon as available.

 

I don't really see the point in selling a vehicle that is only a few years old for a new one for just minor cosmetic changes. Continuously trading late model vehicles to brand new ones in general never did make sense to me. Buying a new vehicle means taking a massive hit financially as the amount of money the vehicle is worth drops rather steeply. Makes much more sense to me to keep one vehicle a longer time instead of continuously dumping money into that huge drop in vehicle value during their first few years. (This is of course assuming that there are no significant mechanical issues or other pressing reasons to change vehicles.)

 

Only if there was solid evidence the leaking issues were resolved.

 

In the past I've traded vehicles after 2-3 years, before I needed to pay for things like tires, brakes, etc, and kept my monthly payment about the same. I put a lot of miles on a vehicle too, so sometimes it's better to trade before you hit those high mileage numbers where your trade in can be greatly reduced.

If I keep my Pat till it's paid off, I'll have 130,000 miles on it. I kept my Ram truck, it now has about 110,000 miles, and I kept my Tracker, and it has 178,000 miles on it.

 

I like my Patriot, but I wouldn't buy another one. I'll be holding out for when the Wrangler gets the new Pentastar V6, or even better... a diesel! The front and rear of the new Patriot are ok I guess, but the black plastic molding looks reeeeeeally cheap in my opinion. I realize it's more offroadsy with the new trim pieces but I think it looks really bad unless you got a black Patriot. And I don't like the new wheels, the spokes are too thick looking.

I'd be interested in seeing what powertrain changes they make on the new one though. At this point though you might as well just wait for the new Fiat vehicle that's going to replace both the Patriot and Compass.

 

Keeping my 2007 FD1 (PRNDL) with my mods. It's been good, and seems to do more with "L" than the later-produced PRND(1) autosticks.

Why replace a good vehicle? I'll drive it until it hits the junkyard.

 

If I can't get vinyl seats and ala-carte packaging of options, I will keep my current Patriot. Also, I hate looks of the "improved" dash board. I made trade it for a new Jeep pickup if one becomes available.

 

I voted no, but not because I don't like the new Patriot. I just won't buy another chrysler vehicle.

I like the patriot, but I have had far too many problems with it. We also own a Caravan that has been nothing but a headache. Thats enough to keep me away for a while.

 

From a trouble standpoint, the Patriot has been stellar. I had the one blown fuse issue, but other than that, all my complaints are related to "new car-ness". Safety systems I don't want, and features that I don't need which are now standard.

 

I wish I could say the same.

30,000 miles and I have had the tie rods go bad 3 times already, both control arms replaced, and the CVT replaced. This was all before I installed the lift springs, so I can't even blame that.

I still have an issue where I will press the gas, and nothing happens. It doesn't happen very often, but seems to always happen at the worst times. The dealer can't find any reason for it.

We just moved recently, so my drive to work will now be a smooth highway instead of crappy city streets, so hopefully that helps my suspension part problems. :smiley_thumbs_up: