Just a fact-finding mission:
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Right Twevy, here's the score. What you might find is that if the work to be done is still under warranty then the dealers will be only too bloody pleased to get your vehicle in to work on it, 'cos THEY aren't paying and YOU aren't paying. It's a terrific earner; but it's a right pain in the Uranus for you, driving backwards and forwards to the dealers. This happened to me, two years ago and it drove me nuts. Drop me an e-mail if you want to know the dealers and I'll let you know, 'cos I live in your neck of the woods.
I take it you've got a sun-roof, 'cos that's the root cause of the whole problem. Yes?
Well, this is what causes it, here's how to locate it and this is what to take with you next time you go to see them.
Firstly, there are four drainage points from each corner of the opened sun-roof. For each of those drainage points there is a corresponding rubber hose. If either the drain points or the hose is blocked, rain-water backs up, builds up on top of the head-lining and floods either the front or the rear light-dome. Here's how to locate the problem (don't try to sort it yourself; the headlining is a batsard to remove, damages easily and costs a mortgage to replace) plus, of course, any yellow wires that you encounter while doing that have been re-cycled from a suicide bomber's vest, so's the explosives they're attached to.
First, let's check the rears. Lift up the tailgate. Looking from the back of the vehicle you'll see two rubber grommets about the size of a fifty-pence piece at about eye-level. Those are where the rear drainage tubes come out. Point the car a tiddly-tad uphill. Open up the sun-roof. get a jug of water and, using a step-ladder (yeah, yeah, I know, you shouldn't lean in sideways from up on a stepladder. There ain't no other way to do this. Get your mate to hold it) lean in over the roof and pour some water into the gully that runs around the edge of the sun-roof. Run round the back of the car and check whether water comes out of the drainage grommet on that side. DON'T get your mate to do this...aah sh**, too late, the ladder's on the floor and you're on you ar*e, right?
Do both sides. If no water comes out of one of them the hose is kinked (common) or there's some masticky stuff in the gulley (dead common).
Now check the fronts. Do the same with the water; car either level or pointing a teensy-tad DOWNhill. This time the water should go down a tube that comes down the A-pillar alongside the windscreen and dribble out underneath the car just behind the front wheel-arch.
Do all that BEFORE you go down the dealer's and they'll know 1.) what they SHOULD be looking for and 2.) they AIN'T dealing with some muppet.
Let me know how you get on.
I take it you've got a sun-roof, 'cos that's the root cause of the whole problem. Yes?
Well, this is what causes it, here's how to locate it and this is what to take with you next time you go to see them.
Firstly, there are four drainage points from each corner of the opened sun-roof. For each of those drainage points there is a corresponding rubber hose. If either the drain points or the hose is blocked, rain-water backs up, builds up on top of the head-lining and floods either the front or the rear light-dome. Here's how to locate the problem (don't try to sort it yourself; the headlining is a batsard to remove, damages easily and costs a mortgage to replace) plus, of course, any yellow wires that you encounter while doing that have been re-cycled from a suicide bomber's vest, so's the explosives they're attached to.
First, let's check the rears. Lift up the tailgate. Looking from the back of the vehicle you'll see two rubber grommets about the size of a fifty-pence piece at about eye-level. Those are where the rear drainage tubes come out. Point the car a tiddly-tad uphill. Open up the sun-roof. get a jug of water and, using a step-ladder (yeah, yeah, I know, you shouldn't lean in sideways from up on a stepladder. There ain't no other way to do this. Get your mate to hold it) lean in over the roof and pour some water into the gully that runs around the edge of the sun-roof. Run round the back of the car and check whether water comes out of the drainage grommet on that side. DON'T get your mate to do this...aah sh**, too late, the ladder's on the floor and you're on you ar*e, right?
Do both sides. If no water comes out of one of them the hose is kinked (common) or there's some masticky stuff in the gulley (dead common).
Now check the fronts. Do the same with the water; car either level or pointing a teensy-tad DOWNhill. This time the water should go down a tube that comes down the A-pillar alongside the windscreen and dribble out underneath the car just behind the front wheel-arch.
Do all that BEFORE you go down the dealer's and they'll know 1.) what they SHOULD be looking for and 2.) they AIN'T dealing with some muppet.
Let me know how you get on.
Thanks rocal thats some good info, what i forgot to say is i don't have a sunroof (still new to this!) warranty is gone but i have made it clear we are not paying for the work that should have already been done.Ive got to say my dealer, Gill's near Bedale have been very good with other bits and bobs so we will see what happens! dropping it off in the morn will keep you posted. Thanks again
I got my first Patriot from John Gill's. I don't think they're too bad at all. The only problem for me is that I live down in Guisborough along the Whitby road, so any trip to Gill's was about an eighty mile round-tour.
I go to what used to be called Kings of Stockton (they've got a new Danish name now. I can't remember it) and they're alright too but they do love to have your car in. No expense, if it's on warranty, fair enough, but that's still a pain in the a**e for me and the best part of the day wasted.
I can't think where that leak of yours is coming from. It's likely to be door related, isn't it? But how? I've found that even badly-fitted sealing strip on its own doesn't guarantee a serious leak. Wind-down window strip? Is the inside of the door-skin soaked too?
Rocal
I go to what used to be called Kings of Stockton (they've got a new Danish name now. I can't remember it) and they're alright too but they do love to have your car in. No expense, if it's on warranty, fair enough, but that's still a pain in the a**e for me and the best part of the day wasted.
I can't think where that leak of yours is coming from. It's likely to be door related, isn't it? But how? I've found that even badly-fitted sealing strip on its own doesn't guarantee a serious leak. Wind-down window strip? Is the inside of the door-skin soaked too?
Rocal
Twevy, look at that area of the splash-back panelling at the back of the wheel-arch and, inside the car, see how high up the dampness extends. It might be coming in through a poor seal in the actual footwell panelling.
Hi rocal ,car is in garage now so going to see what they come up with. I think the front footwell leak could be the door seal as i've pulled the carpet back as far as i can(from under the glove box) and its not wet,but the rear footwell not sure , i have read that a badly fitted rear hatch seal can lead to water running forward along the boot floor either side of the spare well and ending up in rear footwell but i only read that tonight so can't have a look.I'am going to ask the garage exactly what they have done so i can put it on here.Not all bad though as i get to drive my Land Rover series 3 a bit more
Yes, Twevy, you're right. It can cause leaking. I had my first Patriot called back in for that and they had to somehow re-seal the lock on the rear hatch as well. Don't ask me how that could possibly have contributed to the amount of water that I was getting in. But. as I've said, they just loved having that car in to work on.......
My last Series 3 went to that great Solihul-in-the-Sky last August. I had to drive past the scrappers every day where I could see it looking out through the wirefencing accusingly. "Traitor" it was murmuring, "Betrayer" it whispered.....
My last Series 3 went to that great Solihul-in-the-Sky last August. I had to drive past the scrappers every day where I could see it looking out through the wirefencing accusingly. "Traitor" it was murmuring, "Betrayer" it whispered.....
Just a quick update,the Jeep is still in the garage ,they have water tested it twice and say they can't find any leak's, but the body shop manager has been off ill so they want him to take a look at it on monday.I can't see how the amount of water we had in the footwells can't be traced ,they were soaked but i suppose a small leak over time will accumulate.
Mine gets a trickle of water down the rear window in heavy rain, but it ain't bad. I've seen a youtube video of water pouring in the same spot on somebody else's Patriot.
Well got a call to say my jeep did not have a leak after hours of water testing and when i said "well where did all the water come from?" they more or less shrugged their shoulders, they said they had the carpets and seats out and looked over every inch of it but they could'nt find anything ,so i took it home.So you can imagine how surprised i was to find that under the spare wheel there was a puddle and enough mold to enable maggots to live, i know my leak was in the footwells but i cant believe they missed that. The car is back at the dealers now but i don't feel i can trust them now.
Under the spare-wheel well? Years ago there were a couple of folks on this site who had that traced to a badly fitted rear side window; you know, those sort of square windows that are "glued" on. There isn't any proper rubber beading around the outside of those like there is on all the other windows. Ask them to really check out for traces of dribbling down the walls from either of those or for water seeping down using the side-cladding as a wick.
Well got it back for the second time and again they can't find any leak's! they have dried the carpet and cleaned the car, they must think this will distract me from the leak but as soon as the pool appears again, it will go back.kind of glad i've got it back as we've got a fair amount of snow at the moment and the jeep has been very good.
My 2013 Patriot Latitude developed the sunroof leak at 1400 miles & I hadn't even had the sunroof open yet. I drove straight to the dealer & was told that I was lucky as it was tuesday and their 'leak guy' was in. 2 hours later, I was told that it was fixed and it included lowering the liner. So far no more leaks.
Roof other leak
This is so freaking frustrating. The first jeep I own after several people tell me not to buy one. I LOVE my Patriot, we get rain tonight, I go outside get in, and the dang map light is full of water and leaking on dash.....:doh: friend of mine telling me I told so.... but then again....his car cant get off the pavement
This is so freaking frustrating. The first jeep I own after several people tell me not to buy one. I LOVE my Patriot, we get rain tonight, I go outside get in, and the dang map light is full of water and leaking on dash.....:doh: friend of mine telling me I told so.... but then again....his car cant get off the pavement
Rear dome light was full of water But I did find a flashlight back there lol funny I never noticed it before
But I did find a flashlight back there lol funny I never noticed it before
Well, I am at 2 years and 3 months of ownership now of my 2011 Patriot w/ sunroof and to date no leaks( cross fingers, knock on wood, pray, etc... ). I even take it through the no touch car wash a LOT so that means a very high pressure spray of water and some serious wind from the dryer, both of which could easily force water in. No problems with it.
I must admit though I almost never use the sunroof. I have had them before and always used them a lot but for some reason I don't on the Patriot? Maybe because I am older or something and it has lost the appeal it had in my youth? Maybe because I don't open it much at all that plays into it not leaking?
I must admit though I almost never use the sunroof. I have had them before and always used them a lot but for some reason I don't on the Patriot? Maybe because I am older or something and it has lost the appeal it had in my youth? Maybe because I don't open it much at all that plays into it not leaking?
Mine is a 09 I bought new and it's just developing a leak down the inside of the rear window. Never leaked before. I hand wash it (no pressure washer) so it isn't like I caused the leak.
After nearly 5 years of ownership, I wish I'd have bought a vehicle that isn't a computer on wheels. Mostly because I work computers and know they don't last AND you can't fix them yourself unless you have the right compute crap to read the system.
Anyone want to buy mine? 40k mi, no scratches or dent. Just a developing leak.
After nearly 5 years of ownership, I wish I'd have bought a vehicle that isn't a computer on wheels. Mostly because I work computers and know they don't last AND you can't fix them yourself unless you have the right compute crap to read the system.
Anyone want to buy mine? 40k mi, no scratches or dent. Just a developing leak.
Rear hatch started leaking not long ago. Water seems to find its way past the weatherstripping at the top of the hatch, which then collects in the rear dome light and drips into the cargo area. Not a ton of water, but still... Never had an issue before, though, so i wonder if treating the weatherstripping with silicone lube would help. Anyone have experience with this?
Had a leak in the rear hatch. Dripped through the light/flashlight assembly and soaked the headliner and spare tire cover. Had to have the light assembly replaced because the flashlight wouldn't charge anymore.
sunroof leaks and overflows into the headliner if it isnt parked on level ground also i just discovered that the floor in the back passenger side is damp again. I thought it was just something spilled so i put the dehumidifier in and dried it all up. now its damp again... Time to start doing some digging. I might see about getting a new set of gasgets for the sunroof... any thoughts?
Today I was working on my ABS sensor and had to get to the wiring harness in the gate. I took out the floor and realized water was surrounding my spare tire. There's a leak somewhere in the back just not sure where. I live in Florida so when it rains it pours.
'07 Patriot leaking
Recently bought an '07 Patriot and after an icy day, got in it to go somewhere and water started leaking from the side bars (?) on either side of the windshield. About two minutes later, water started dripping from the dome light! Has happened a couple of times since, but yesterday after a day of rain. was driving off and could hear water "whooshing" on the roof and all of the sudden, water started leaking heavily from the passenger side of the windshield!
I'm seeing TONS of people having similar problems, with and without sunroofs. Ugh. I guess we'll take it to the shop and see if they can figure out where it's coming from and fix it, but from other posts, I'm not very hopeful.
Recently bought an '07 Patriot and after an icy day, got in it to go somewhere and water started leaking from the side bars (?) on either side of the windshield. About two minutes later, water started dripping from the dome light! Has happened a couple of times since, but yesterday after a day of rain. was driving off and could hear water "whooshing" on the roof and all of the sudden, water started leaking heavily from the passenger side of the windshield!
I'm seeing TONS of people having similar problems, with and without sunroofs. Ugh. I guess we'll take it to the shop and see if they can figure out where it's coming from and fix it, but from other posts, I'm not very hopeful.
If you have a sunroof...it's always good to check that the drains are secured.
Just a friendly tip. Working in a shop, this seems to be a problem with a certai
german manufacturer..I won't name drop.
Just a friendly tip. Working in a shop, this seems to be a problem with a certai
german manufacturer..I won't name drop.
My 2014 Pat barely a month old has water pouring through the front dome light. Hard to believe they still haven't remedied this. Went to the dealership right after work and they told me to come back Monday, because that is when their leak specialist will be there, even though it is suppose to rain all weekend. Do we have a fix for this yet or is taking it to the dealership my best bet?
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