Just thoight I would say that...I have never felt so confident and comfortable behind the wheel in full conditions before in any other vehicle...lived in some pretty nasty weather places before as well...
Love my Pat in the snow.
Sturminator
41 - 60 of 60 Posts
Joined
·
720 Posts
Have a Grand Cherokee with Selec-Trac, limited-slip and Michelin ATX All Seasons, and a FDII Patriot with Bridgestone Blizzack WS-70 winter tires.
When the winter weather goes sour, the Patriot is first choice, it will run circles around the Grand in terms of traction and braking.
When the winter weather goes sour, the Patriot is first choice, it will run circles around the Grand in terms of traction and braking.
Joined
·
4,018 Posts
Here is a good article that talks to the difference between a M+S tire and a winter service rated tire.
http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=125
We have both, I am running the M+S SRA's that came with my Patriot but we have dedicated winter tires (not M+S tires) on the XL7 and like DJMurphy writes, the XL7 will run (and stop) circles around the Patriot in snow and/or ice situations.
![Image]()
It honestly is a crazy different driving experience being in snow with tires with the snowflake/mountain severe service designation...those of you who get real snow should try it out.
And remember..when you are putting miles on the winter tires you are not on your summer ones...so everything lasts longer. Grab some cheap rims from a wrecker and your cost isn't huge past the initial tire purchase.
Trust me on this...the difference is worth it, if you get real snow and especially if you get ice.
http://www.tirerack.com/winter/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=125
We have both, I am running the M+S SRA's that came with my Patriot but we have dedicated winter tires (not M+S tires) on the XL7 and like DJMurphy writes, the XL7 will run (and stop) circles around the Patriot in snow and/or ice situations.
It honestly is a crazy different driving experience being in snow with tires with the snowflake/mountain severe service designation...those of you who get real snow should try it out.
And remember..when you are putting miles on the winter tires you are not on your summer ones...so everything lasts longer. Grab some cheap rims from a wrecker and your cost isn't huge past the initial tire purchase.
Trust me on this...the difference is worth it, if you get real snow and especially if you get ice.
Its 425hp in stock trim for the last gen Charger SRTs and yes stability as well as traction control are now a manditory law forced on by the government. That means you pay extra and talented drivers cant have any fun.
Joined
·
575 Posts
I had a dentist appt. in Marquette Tue and my daughter drove back on a backroad with tranny locked on fd1. Told her to stay under 30. Had fun.
Joined
·
36 Posts
First post here and first post on the second half of winter 
Just got my '09 Patriot on October 1st, and today was the first day of snow up here in Great Falls, MT.
I wanted to comment on this:
I bought mine used with pretty bald tires.. got the dealer to throw in a new set but told him "Let me wear out these one's first and then I'll throw on the new ones".
And even with halfway-bald Goodyear Something-or-other tires, this thing dominated in snow.
Never felt anything like it. In 4WD Lock, the thing was much more predictable. Maybe it's just me...
Just got my '09 Patriot on October 1st, and today was the first day of snow up here in Great Falls, MT.
I wanted to comment on this:
I bought mine used with pretty bald tires.. got the dealer to throw in a new set but told him "Let me wear out these one's first and then I'll throw on the new ones".
And even with halfway-bald Goodyear Something-or-other tires, this thing dominated in snow.
In FWD, the abs was so touchy
Never felt anything like it. In 4WD Lock, the thing was much more predictable. Maybe it's just me...
Joined
·
7,330 Posts
partially disabling your tcs will make a big difference as well.
I put some "GOOD" (and highly recommended) all weather tires (Toyo Proxes ST/II) on my Challenger last year for the snow and after almost losing her down a canyon, I realized "all season" meant "Doesn't handle as well as a street tire and is still useless in the snow".
I'm really curious to see how the stock Firestones handle the snow on my new 4X4 Pat. I hope they'll be acceptable. I could go to Schwab and credit card some snow tires but I'd rather try to avoid that expense this year with new tires on the rig.
I'm really curious to see how the stock Firestones handle the snow on my new 4X4 Pat. I hope they'll be acceptable. I could go to Schwab and credit card some snow tires but I'd rather try to avoid that expense this year with new tires on the rig.
Joined
·
128 Posts
I can't wait for SNOW! I am ready man! New 4x4 Patriot, with 4 studded General Altimax Arctics, let the white come... :banana:
Joined
·
36 Posts
Oh man...Great Falls gets snow before Alaska does :icon_rolleyes:
I don't even think my folks back home in Colorado have got snow yet
Hahaha
Joined
·
128 Posts
Can you see the irony? :icon_rolleyes: We haven't even had a good frost yet.. If AK continues to fail to keep up its reputation I'm going to have to move south!Oh man...Great Falls gets snow before Alaska does :icon_rolleyes:
I don't even think my folks back home in Colorado have got snow yet
epper:
Joined
·
12,505 Posts
I had some snow last week, but just a dusting.
I'm sure dedicated snow tires would be best, but I've run my SR-As for the last 4 winters, and have only locked 4x4 one time on the roads.
Of course I also have used chains to get up my driveway, when needed, but that's off road.
I'm sure dedicated snow tires would be best, but I've run my SR-As for the last 4 winters, and have only locked 4x4 one time on the roads.
Of course I also have used chains to get up my driveway, when needed, but that's off road.
Joined
·
1,094 Posts
You'd like it here in SoFlo.Can you see the irony? :icon_rolleyes: We haven't even had a good frost yet.. If AK continues to fail to keep up its reputation I'm going to have to move south!
Hate to tell you, but CO has had about 20" +/- and getting some this week. Headed to Vail on the 12/13 for Snow Daze. Yes peeps in FL go to CO for the goods.
Joined
·
128 Posts
I really need the best tires for our road. We get pounded with snow, a few years ago the official winter tally for the airport was 36 feet (a record) . We typically get cold spells of zero, just enough for the road to be very cold, then it warms to the twenties and dumps 1 or 2 feet, then as the storm continues often the temperature continues to climb and the snow turns into a rainstorm. Here is a picture of our old subaru after such a weather event. Notice how I stuck the front end into the snowbank. It was the only way to keep it from sliding down the hill! Walking or even standing on that road without cleats on your boots is all but impossible.
![Image]()
Joined
·
128 Posts
I was in Florida inJanuary a long time ago to watch the big rocket take off. Interesting coming from Fairbanks alaska to FL! I liked it there but would ultimately miss the seasons change I think..You'd like it here in SoFlo.
Joined
·
3,954 Posts
The Patriot handles the snow really well. The only time it snowed a lot was this past February in South Carolina. It was the same night my wife went into labor.. I had the stock Firestone Affinity tires, and it got us there. The only problem was the other drivers who didn't realize you can't brake on ice. I almost got in a few accidents due to their stupidity. Anytime the Pat slipped, the stability control kicked in and I was on my way.
Put my snow tires on yesterday. Had flurries this morning. Didn't stick.
With good snow tires, the FWD Patriot is excellent in snow. My snows are on their 4th or 5th season -- getting down there. I may have to put a couple new ones on the front once we get some serious snow.
With good snow tires, the FWD Patriot is excellent in snow. My snows are on their 4th or 5th season -- getting down there. I may have to put a couple new ones on the front once we get some serious snow.
Joined
·
923 Posts
I've never had any trouble at all in snow or ice. Last Christmas Eve we drove across the mountains in both. Saw plenty of Range Rovers, Explorers, and even a Grand Cherokee in medians and off the to the side of the road, but not me....
Joined
·
783 Posts
Indeed, winter driving is all about being smart, knowing both your and your vehicle's limitations, and accumulating experience. I've tooled around in a '98 Prizm for 15 years here between Philadelphia and Central New York and never got myself in anything I couldn't get out of driving daily in city and weekly on highway. I was definitely limited in when and where I would travel however. It will be so great to have a 4x4 Patriot however, as the stress level will certainly plummet and I will certainly be able to venture to places and through conditions I would never attempt in the Prizm. Plus I will finally be done with the daily shoveling of the 125' narrow inclined driveway!
41 - 60 of 60 Posts
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
-
?
