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Right on Skipper- I had a 2005 Dodge Dakota 4x4 before the patriot. It had a 80l tank and I rarely got more than 450 kms. With the Patriot I get between 400 and 460 kms and that is with a 50l tank.Moreover that is in the winter- I expect to get over 500kms in the summer on the highway. On the other hand before that I had a RAV 4 (with a 5 speed manual) and I could easily get over 500kms per tank and I believe that the tank on the RAV was slightly smaller than the Patriot.

So it greatly matters what your are comparing with.

On balance I would say that the mileage with the Patriot is pretty darn good. At 110kms per hour on the highway using Scanguage I can usually keep the consumption below 10 litres per 100 kms
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
3rd fillup from the same gas station and the same pump. The light did'nt go on but I got 371KM out of 41.472L.

Summary:
1st fillup: 8.88888 kms per litre
2nd fillup: 9.269 kms per litre
3rd fillup: 8.94579 kms per litre
 
Also if you're crsing on the highway with CVT switch to auto stick and go to 6th. It's like a difference of 500rpms. That's a couple mpg right there.
In many weeks of following this and other forums I have never seen this before. Are you saying that by using "6th" in autostick you can actually reduce RPM and hence increase mileage? How much data do you have to support this? It seems that you could have made a major breakthrough- I cannot wait to try for myself!!
 
As others have intimated here, it's all relative I guess. Wait a minute isn't incest relative? But that's another story. Though I am upset with the dinky gas tank, the gas tank mileage is about the same for both my 07 Patriot and my 98 Cherokee. The difference is one is a 50 litre tank and the other is 75 litres. The ol' 4.0 litre straight 6 is a serious guzzler.

The winter isn't helping right now either.
 
In many weeks of following this and other forums I have never seen this before. Are you saying that by using "6th" in autostick you can actually reduce RPM and hence increase mileage? How much data do you have to support this? It seems that you could have made a major breakthrough- I cannot wait to try for myself!!
I don't need any data to support it at 80km's or so and under if i go from D to 6th my rpm's drop by about 500. Less rpm's = less gas used on any combustion engine in production. There is a thread in the general forums on the CVT that talks about it as well if you're looking for how much of a saving. I only noticed it becasue i hit the autostick to 5th by accident and shifted again thinking i'd go back to D but went to 6th.
 
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"using "6th" in autostick you can actually reduce RPM" , i listened and tried ......... it DOES'NT WORK. If you look at the RPM it actually increases thus taking more gas. stick to D and don't mess with the autostick. autostick is good for engine braking and starting faster at red lights ... got my autostick on second gear and reved the engine to 6 thousand RPM ... then to 3rd gear and was at 120KM before I knew it, reminds me of driving manual in the old days ... AUTOSTICK IS SOOO COOL.
 
"using "6th" in autostick you can actually reduce RPM" , i listened and tried ......... it DOES'NT WORK. If you look at the RPM it actually increases thus taking more gas. stick to D and don't mess with the autostick. autostick is good for engine braking and starting faster at red lights ... got my autostick on second gear and reved the engine to 6 thousand RPM ... then to 3rd gear and was at 120KM before I knew it, reminds me of driving manual in the old days ... AUTOSTICK IS SOOO COOL.
You just don't know what you're doing. Easier to say that than to say it doesn't work. A quote right from a thread on this board you didn't bother to search. read the whole thread there is lots of info in there.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2670



" 4.) 2008 Autosticks can improve city (low-speed) MPG by shifting manually...sometimes.
For hill climbing, there appears to be little difference between CVT automatic and shifting manually using Autostick. However, on FLAT roads where you're maintaining a constant speed (such as when traffic lights lights are timed at 20 or 25mph), you will see a nice improvement in MPG by using your Autostick. Shifting into "5" as soon as possible after reaching 18 mph will increase MPG on flat roads. Same goes for shifting into "6" at 23mph. Reasoning here is to keep engine RPMs and fuel consumption at lowest possible level. Shift back into "D" at speeds above 40mph, as most efficient highway speed drive gear on CVT is not accessible with Autostick. Also, if you intend to reach highway cruising speeds, a standard acceleration using CVT programming is probably preferable as it gets you to cruising speed quicker."
 
Mileage

I'm driving an 08 2.4 with the 5 speed and 4x4...at about 6000 km and am driving regularly between Meaford and Ottawa. I am consistently getting between 620 and 640 km to a 48-50 litre fill.
There is a Mac's milk in Meaford where regular is still 1.16, everywhere else is sitting at 1.24 +

:)
Al.
 
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you must be running the tank dry. The specs say its a 51 L tank. Plus, I have found that I am getting better mileage during the past month mainly due to the warmer weather. But I am not getting near what you are getting. I now average 43L and go a distance of 430KM.
 
Here is a couple tips:

  • Limit use of the air conditioning / defrost settings as that consumes more fuel. Regaular fan and heat are OK.
  • Tire pressure should be at the recommended level or slightly higher.
  • If you drive a standard, shift at 2000-2500 RPM, 2000 RPM is ideal and makes a noticable difference in fuel economy.
  • On the highway keep speeds under 110 km/hr (70 mph), once you go over this fuel economy drops dramatically.
  • Remove accessories / extra weight, likely has the least effect, however will slightly improve fuel economy.

After the break-in period I now achieving 7.6 - 9.7 L/100km (25 - 30 MPG)
 
In fact travelling at 120-125 km/h I regularly get about 550 km to a tank with no problem, If I drive more conservatively my mileage increases exponentially!
Use the cruise alot...and avoid sudden angry acceleration when someone drives up ur rear end and or cuts you off! :)
 
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