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Check out this video on Cars.com about the new 2014 Jeep Cherokee; less cargo room than the Patriot and a small back seat :doh: Thought is was funny how he said if the Compass didn't ruin the Jeep image the new Cherokee certainly won't :D

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/03/2014-jeep-cherokee-video.html

Notice how closely the interior matches the Dodge Dart. Wouldn't it be neat if we had the "Tigershark" 2.4L and 9 speed auto in the Patriot/Compass :wow:
 
Ha!! It has less room than the Compass and Patriot, less clearance, more money, ugly front end.

Oh well, someone's going to like it. It's just too bad all of those features couldn't go into something I want to buy. And if the trail hawk still gets 30 mpg, that will be a plus, but that's about it. Quality looks top notch, and I love the interior, but it really should be bigger inside
 
WOW! Thats really messed up. It's still not the best looking thing, but redesigning the headlights made it look a bit different. It does scream escape to me now. However, I am disappointed in the rear and back. More cargo room then Patriot? wow, someone screwed up somewhere, lol. I could honestly deal with the styling, and get the 4X4 active drive one, with the 3.2 V6, but I could not deal with the rear seat and back for the room. I am disappointed Chrysler. You're supposed to be making better cars, not worse. When will you learn!
 
Rear seat and cargo room would be a killer for me if the looks weren't already. That's why I went with the Patriot over the Juke. The Juke was more refined, faster and more fun to drive but you were f'd if you wanted to actually haul any cargo or passengers.
 
This is a really good review by cars.com. Thanks for posting SBD.

I wasn't aware the back seat & cargo area was so small. It will be interesting to see how the Cherokee sells vs the Lib.

Would the Cherokee have been a more logical replacement for the Compass/Pat?
 
From ALLPAR

Cherokee
Cargo vol. behind rear seat 24.8 to 29.7 cubic feet (seat moves fore and aft)
Cargo vol. behind front seats 54.9 cubic feet

Patriot
Cargo Volume, Rear Seats Up, cu. ft. 23.0
Cargo Volume, Rear Seats Folded, cu. ft. 54.2
 
I get to test cargo space in Pat this week. 5 passengers from Green Bay area to Branson. We will be stopping often of course and all interstate driving past Madison. Will report mileage with a fully loaded car no top carrier etc. The argument of comparing the new Fiatokee to a real Jeep is that it's an embarrasment to all American Chrysler Jeep engineers. I bet there is a lot of drinking going on in Detriot.
 
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This is a really good review by cars.com. Thanks for posting SBD.

I wasn't aware the back seat & cargo area was so small. It will be interesting to see how the Cherokee sells vs the Lib.

Would the Cherokee have been a more logical replacement for the Compass/Pat?
You're welcome! You would almost think this should be the Compass/Patriot replacement since the new Cherokee is built on the same platform as the Dart. Remember the Patriot/Compass duo were built on the same platform as Chrysler's last small car...the Caliber. The only Dart I have had a chance to look at had a tiny back seat (smaller back seat than my former '12 Corolla). I'm thinking Jeep is going more mainstream in design for their SUVs and the Wrangler will be the only "real" looking Jeep left after the Patriot's demise. Small cargo area and backseat for a midsize SUV that looks as ugly as the new Cherokee can really be a deal breaker in this hot segment.
 
The new Cherokee kinda makes you wonder (flinch) as to what they'll do to the next Pat/Compass based on the Fiat Punto or whatever....

Time to get a Wrangler 4 door? :confused:
 
I think Patriots are selling well because the consumer sees the end of the traditional Jeep look. The younger generation will buy the Fiat based Jeeps but the older crowd remembers the origin of the Jeep. We conquered evil doers with the help of the original Jeeps. One of them was Italian. I know we move on from the past but I never thought Jeep would be made from Italian design.
 
I'm thinking of building a Patriot '14 for delivery next year, a 'Mickey Thompson' version in a FDI configuration and the Shark motor with a 5-speed, unless the new tranny gets worthy numbers and praise.

Jeep keeps saying it looks better in person, so why isn't it growing on me?
Is it just good engineering in a high-tech, Trial-rated Fiat, in a bad dress!
 
Looks aside, if the Cherokee has less cargo room than the Patriot/Compass, then it really has room for nothing. The cargo area of my Patriot is noticeably less than my wife's Subaru Forrester, which was majorly disappointing. I can easily fit a child's bike in the back of her car. Not even close in my Patriot. I'm surprised this replaces the Liberty. I would have thought it would be the Compass/Patriot that was dropped.
 
My old 2003 Liberty has less space than the Patriot, so I am not surprised to see less in the new Cherokee. Anybody notice that the back looks a bit like 2 SUV's stacked? Really don't care to see that bouncing up and down the road!
 
I'm thinking of building a Patriot '14 for delivery next year, a 'Mickey Thompson' version in a FDI configuration and the Shark motor with a 5-speed, unless the new tranny gets worthy numbers and praise.

Jeep keeps saying it looks better in person, so why isn't it growing on me?
Is it just good engineering in a high-tech, Trial-rated Fiat, in a bad dress!
Is Jeep putting the Tigershark engine in the Patriot?
 
wow this is in the catagory of a midsize suv yet the roit and compass and bigger LOLOLOL-love it

I guess people consider the boxy shapes, like the patriot, "old" by the sounds of what hes saying at the ending. does anyone else interrupt him implying this>?

not that it matters what he or anyone thinks, I personally like the look of the patriot
 
I think the slopped roof line is a hinderence, as well as seats that move forward and back. you move the seats back = less room. patriot does have more room than the liberty. I was originally looking at a libby, but when I went to put car seats in it, it was way easier to do it in the patriot... changed my mind...
 
Jeep keeps saying it looks better in person, so why isn't it growing on me?
I live close to Chrysler HQ and see quite a few Cherokees running around with Mfr. plates. Vehicle does not look better in person, although side profile matches every other SUV in the segment.
 
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