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At 2,400 miles or kilometres you aren't close to broken in yet.
Mileage improves as the motor seats in and such.

Most of us achieve your best and standard fuel mileage after the first oil change...somewhere around 5-8,000 miles.

Just remember this: I run the (almost) exact same route every working day. I'm within 5-10 kilometres every day on a 120+/- k route that includes stop and go town, highway and logging/industrial roads.

When I first got my FWD Patriot last December I was returning high 20's.

A year later I now get 30-31 mpg on a consistent and continual basis.

You will get better mileage...if you allow yourself to get there.
Or you can be that guy, eh?
 
I have considered the possibility of the engine not being broken in. Also I go by actual miles driven per trip starting with a full tank. Each trip to work I re fill back to full and see how much gas was consumed based on the distance traveled. 35 miles uses 1.3 gallons netting 26mpg.if I fill up after 70 to 75 miles 3.8 gallons are consumed. That's an extra gallon! I am driving the same exact way each time. I also am 3 minutes off the freeway to work and home with gas stations at both freeway exits.
 
yoitswoody, using your logic, I'd suggest filling up every 35 miles if that's how you get 26mpg! You're better off to fill twice at 35 miles/ 1.3 gal than to go 70 miles and have to put in 3.8 gals.

Seriously, tracking every day is tedious and with such small samples the fluctuations are bound to be huge. I wouldn't even hope for an accurate figure under those circumstances. What you're dealing with is what statisticians call a sampling error: the samples are just too small to give a realistic representation.

After I'd had my Patriot for a few thousand miles I decided to set my trip odometer and track my mpg for 1000 miles, or about 4 fills. It included all sorts of driving over several weeks -- city, rural, highway, freeway, and probably sun, rain & snow. Now I had a much larger sample and my economy was in the high 20 mpgs. That's about where I'd expect it.

A last word of hope: I've owned several Chrysler vehicles and once they're broken in, I've always been able to acheive better fuel economy than advertised. With GM products I've barely been able to duplicate the advertised numbers, and usually fell 1-2 mpg short.

Finally: Do as I did -- fill it up, set the trip odometer and save your fuel receipts for 1000 miles. Then do the math. You might be pleasantly surprised.
 
I have considered the possibility of the engine not being broken in. Also I go by actual miles driven per trip starting with a full tank. Each trip to work I re fill back to full and see how much gas was consumed based on the distance traveled. 35 miles uses 1.3 gallons netting 26mpg.if I fill up after 70 to 75 miles 3.8 gallons are consumed. That's an extra gallon! I am driving the same exact way each time. I also am 3 minutes off the freeway to work and home with gas stations at both freeway exits.
Are all your forks lined up the exact same way in the cutlery drawer as well?

You don't have to overthink this...this thread and all the above contributions from MrJeepR, NHPatriot and JoeP neatly summarize all the many gas mileage threads on this forum.

Believe me, its been talked about and talked about...do the above and you will see proper fuel usage.
 
Ignatz,

I've actually tracked my milage from total miles driven per tank. At first I was only getting 180 miles per full tank (same driving) its slowly started to get better but still hasnt broke pass 200 miles per tank. This is why I started tracking fuel consumption PER TRIP lol. I think the ultimate test will be this...

If I spend less money on gas filling up every 35 miles (once when I get to work and once when I get home) as opposed to filling up when my gas light comes on for a 5 day work commute. I'll start this week. And the next week I'll let the tank go empty and refuel as needed. I'll take pics of the odometer and trip meter as well as receipts. This should be interesting lol
 
Yoitswoody, I just noticed that you have FWD as do I. I'm really thinking you should be in the high 20s mpg or even low 30s.

This time of year I'm in the high 20s, but I blame it on snow and cold weather. In the Spring and on the highway, I think you'll be flirting with the 30s. Drive easy and good luck. I'll be looking for the results of your experiments.
 
CVTs do not like aggressive driving. If you are aggressively driving to work etc. then you will see an aggressive gas charge. Simple as that.
As mentioned im not sure if I mentioned this but I since have been chasing this fuel issue all hard driving has been eliminated. I set cruise control on the freeway. I also work grave yard shift so i dont have any traffic issues.
 
I wonder if the fuel blend is the issue. I have only owned my 2012 since buying it used in January. I drive 70 miles per day +/- I found using 87 the engine seems to not run as smooth, I also track my mpg, and when using 87 I averaged 22 (hwy and city). Using 89, I average 25 and it seems to run more smooth. At 2-3 mpg, the cost for 89 vs the savings in gas is a push.... I have not tried 92 yet. I want to wait for winter blend to be over.

FYI, I noticed the same thing in my 2008 vvt chevy HHR. At the first oil change, I'm going to be using full synthetic and plan to get a K&N air filter. On the HHR, those were both good for 1 mpg.
 
A couple months ago I decided to go for it and follow some of the advice on ecomodder.com after reading the posts for years. I did partial grill blocks, air dams, and increase tire pressure to 40psi (sidewall max 44) on the Pat and the Fiesta. The pat gets almost all city driving and have seen only about a small increase in the average from 22.5 to 23.5 (not much data yet). But the fiesta has gone from 32.2 to 35.1 average and this weekend I blew the doors off my best ever tank of 40.8 mpg. On a round trip 2.5 hours each way at 65 mph most of the time I got 49 mpg (rated 38). I would add the suggestion to not use cruise control but to draft 4-5 car lengths behind someone who is driving at an appropriate speed.
 
I have a 100 mile commute, some stop and go, some highway, and I usually average 23 MPG for my FDII.

Sometimes on trips I do better. On this past weekend going to DC from PA you get a couple MPG better than coming back. The way there is mostly downhill, and the ride back is mostly uphill, and often with a headwind.
 
I am on a round trip from central Texas to Las Vegas, NV. Over the first 817.1 miles I averaged 24.12 mpg. Mostly driving 75 mph on Interstate 10 with one hundred mile stint at 80 mph. Just put it on cruise control and drove. Of course, this is the 2.4 FD1. Seems to be about the same as it is at 60 or 65 for my vehicle. Tach was showing mosty 2400/2600. Mileage via GPS.
 
the next time I get gas i'm going to drive under the Guidelines of MrJeepr44! along with a little lucas.just read it over again...I bet alot of people battle the cvt, rather than try to work with it!
 
I have learned ever since I had my JK, that I dont own a sportcar, so dont expect it to accelerate like one...i do about 250 miles of driving a week to get to work..90% is highway...I have learned that the cruise control is my friend...I have not fueled enough times just yet to see what I am actually averaging per fill....But anything compared to 17 MPG on my JK anything is an upgrade

Alfy
 
the next time I get gas i'm going to drive under the Guidelines of MrJeepr44! along with a little lucas.just read it over again...I bet alot of people battle the cvt, rather than try to work with it!
I think that was the big thing with me. Learning to work with the cvt not against it. The cvt is similar to my wife. It tells me how to drive.....:doh: lol
 
One thing with the CVT, when you accelerate, like getting on a highway off the ramp, it will get up there well with high RPMs, and if you stay on the gas it will remain high, but if once you get to speed you let off a bit, RPMs will drop a lot, and you maintain speed.

Try it.
 
My best MPG

Firstly, the senior members at the beginning of this thread made some very practical fuel saving suggestions.

Last weekend my 08 Patty got the best MPG, albeit under fairly ideal driving conditions: Ambient temp of 25°C (78F); 2 separate round trips (4 legs) to visit inlaws in Oshawa 70 km (43 mi) away; 18% city, 82% hwy.

Using the scanguage to record the MPG, each 70 km leg used 6.9 L/100km (34 USmpg); On each hwy stretch, fuel consumption settled at 6.3 L/100km (37 mpg). These numbers were repeated four times. Hwy speed range 50-60 mph, with a couple taps on the brakes due to traffic bunching. A near ideal driving condition.

My Patty is a basic-basic FWD tin-can with 5 speed stick, and no A/C. I had to open the windows by an inches for "cooling", that's no good for the aerodynamics at hwy speed.

This beats the Cdn govt EnerGuide for the 08 Patriot: Hwy 7.1 (33 mpg). Better than advertised by 12% ! :pepper:

By Autumn, all mpg's will tank with the temperature and the new reality.
 
How NOT to Get Great MPG

Lift your Pat with an RRO kit. You break the ground effect created by being only 7+ inches off the ground.

Add 235s for even less MPG and the 1/2 inch higher you get.

Add crossrails, off-road driving lights, mud flaps, trailer hitch and you kind of get the idea.

I'm happy with 21.5 around town with the AC blowing forth, but it gets about the same at 70-75.

Run at 80 mph, you can get real lousy mpg without trying with all the above mentioned goodies.

Drive in the dirt with your AC on, that's why we bought a Patriot here in SoFlo.

Best Tip: Get the 5-speed manny tranny. Agreed!
 
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