2013 oil change interval = 10,000 miles or twelve months

Murman · Jan 13, 2013

Someone posted a clip of a 2013 OM the other day. The required max oil change interval has been extended.

From the 2011 Patriot OM
Under no circumstances should oil change intervals
exceed 8,000 miles (13 000 km) or six months, whichever
comes first.

From the 2012 Patriot OM
Under no circumstances should oil change intervals
exceed 8,000 miles (13 000 km) or six months, whichever
comes first.

From the 2013 Patriot OM
Under no circumstances should oil change intervals
exceed 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or twelve months,
whichever comes first.

What changed to extend the max (read Warranty Coverage) OC interval by 2,000 miles/6 months??? The maintenance chart has also changed for 2013.

aroundincircles · Jan 13, 2013

Full synthetic oil? The oil change interval for my Saab that used synthetic was similar.

MrJeepR44 · Jan 13, 2013

Murman said:
What changed to extend the max (read Warranty Coverage) OC interval by 2,000 miles/6 months???

I seriously doubt Chrysler changed anything on this motor at all. I think after Dixie came in with a blown engine at 100,000 miles, they figured it to be a good time to increase the oil change interval :doh:

I wonder if they can reprogram my 2011 oil minder to match the 2013

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Murman · Jan 13, 2013

aroundincircles said:
Full synthetic oil? The oil change interval for my Saab that used synthetic was similar.

Nope...

Engine Oil
We recommend you use API Certified SAE 5W-20 Engine Oil, meeting the requirements of Chrysler Material Standard MS-6395. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE grade.

GTX 5W-20 meets the spec...

Synthetic Engine Oils
You may use synthetic engine oils provided the recommended oil quality requirements are met, and the recommended maintenance intervals for oil and filter changes are followed.

No "Will, Must, Shall or Required"...

aroundincircles · Jan 13, 2013

I would never run oil for 10k miles... I change regular oil every 3k and synthetic every 5...

NHPATRIOT · Jan 13, 2013

Lots of car mfg's are starting to extend out to 7500-10,000 and a year. Modern oils can do it in a healthy engine. Also, I am going to assume here that with the vehicle being equipped with an OLM car mfg's are figuring that will trip and result in the oil being changed sooner in vehicles that are used harder.

I would like to see Chrysler(Jeep) back spec the older Patriots to a year and 10K. I only do about 7-8K a year tops now and I run synthetic. A year and 10K would be good for me.

NHPATRIOT · Jan 13, 2013

MrJeepR44 said:
I seriously doubt Chrysler changed anything on this motor at all. I think after Dixie came in with a blown engine at 100,000 miles, they figured it to be a good time to increase the oil change interval :doh:

I wonder if they can reprogram my 2011 oil minder to match the 2013

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The OLM programing may not have been altered. Time and miles are not part of the formula for the OLM. It has to do with temp, idle time, RPM's, and other factors related to actual use.

NHPATRIOT · Jan 13, 2013

aroundincircles said:
I would never run oil for 10k miles... I change regular oil every 3k and synthetic every 5...

In a healthy engine you are wasting money dumping modern oils at such short intervals unless you are doing so to stay wiithin warranty requirements.

PPiekarski · Jan 13, 2013

I will have my first oil change at 1 year mark, Im at 2450 miles today, next month on the 14th will be 1 year.

MrJeepR44 · Jan 13, 2013

NHPATRIOT said:
The OLM programing may not have been altered. Time and miles are not part of the formula for the OLM. It has to do with temp, idle time, RPM's, and other factors related to actual use.

Are you certain of that? My last three oil changes were exactly six months apart and only had 4,000 miles before the indicator came on. It is possible my driving conditions just happen to make it go off every six months, and not a lot has changed in the last year and a half, but that would be some coincidence. That is why I've been assuming it takes time into account

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PPiekarski · Jan 13, 2013

Ive been driving almost a year and my oil change indicator hasn't come on...

1 year mark is February, 14 2013

Im at 2450 right now

Metaxa · Jan 13, 2013

MrJeepR44 said:
Are you certain of that? My last three oil changes were exactly six months apart and only had 4,000 miles before the indicator came on. It is possible my driving conditions just happen to make it go off every six months, and not a lot has changed in the last year and a half, but that would be some coincidence. That is why I've been assuming it takes time into account

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MY OLM has been all over the map.
Despite pretty regular, same, same driving each and every day/month.

My first one after driving off the dealer lot didn't go off before my miles ran up to limit.
second one went off before I ran out of months at way higher miles, third one went off what I would consider normally.

Haven't had a fourth one.

so mine is definitely doing "something".

aroundincircles · Jan 13, 2013

NHPATRIOT said:
In a healthy engine you are wasting money dumping modern oils at such short intervals unless you are doing so to stay wiithin warranty requirements.

I have driven 3 cars from new to over 300k miles with no engine issues or rebuilds required. I figure 20 bucks every month and a half to two months is worth it. (I drive A LOT of miles)

NHPATRIOT · Jan 13, 2013

MrJeepR44 said:
Are you certain of that? My last three oil changes were exactly six months apart and only had 4,000 miles before the indicator came on. It is possible my driving conditions just happen to make it go off every six months, and not a lot has changed in the last year and a half, but that would be some coincidence. That is why I've been assuming it takes time into account

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The only time/miles I am aware of with the Chrysler OLM is many people report the 1st trip right at 2500 miles. That seems to be some sort of preset interval for the OLM to trip. My 08 Ram went right at 2500 as did my Patriot. Neither vehicle's OLM ever tripped again however( actually I think the Ram did once - maybe

).

The OLM does not factor time nor mileage. It is based on various factors related to how the vehicle is used. If you are tripping right at 6 months and similar miles then you are very consistant in how you drive.

I actually went a little over 7 months( shhh )on my last OC and no OLM light.

MrJeepR44 · Jan 14, 2013

NHPATRIOT said:
I actually went a little over 7 months( shhh )on my last OC and no OLM light.

See, now that is what I like to hear. I
Now that I have a highway commute, I hope to see 8,000 miles between changes

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Phantom Rider · Jan 27, 2013

PPiekarski said:
Ive been driving almost a year and my oil change indicator hasn't come on...

1 year mark is February, 14 2013

Im at 2450 right now

I'm at 3300 miles at 8 months and going in for my first oil change this week.

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