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#41 · (Edited)
johnda said:
The Patriot is a sensible SUV that really has decent performance and is efficient. Personally, I would not be caught dead in a Denali, Escalade or Navigator. Is my Patriot perfect? I guess not, but is any car 100% perfect?

My Patriot does what I want it to do and it does it reliably and efficiently. OK, rant over. I have some golf clubs I need to get in that baby before the temperature drops too far.
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High Five to you John.
 
#42 ·
For me and a daily driver, Patriot is perfect for me.
Now for towing, yes something full size is nicer. Right now we're towing a 18 ft trailer with a V-6 Nissan. Down the road in a few years it'll have to upgraded so we can tow a little bigger trailer so we will need more power.


I love my Patriot, I'm going to drive it into the ground, when the motor blows or whatever comes first. I will drive it spitting and sputtering. I'm quit happy with, no complaints. It's been the best vehicle I've ever owned. First Jeep and I will be buying another Jeep when the Patriot goes spitting and sputtering down the road to it's resting point on the hill at the ranch.

No the Patriot isn't for everyone. I will admit I didn't test drive a Patriot, I did test drive the Compass. I did my research and a lot of it. I knew what I was getting into. I knew what to look for and still look for. For me it's perfect. Is it perfect for my neighbor probably not cause they have three kids and are talking about having a baby in a few years. Is it perfect for some other neighbors probably. We are all different and we all have different needs. Do some of us jump into things blind yes, do we later regret it, yes.

If your not happy 90-100% and feel your lacking the OOOMPH as in power, then trade it in and get a V-6 or something. If your wanting a Jeep, try the Liberty or the Grand Cherokee. I think they will meet your needs for what you need. Your gas mileage will be a little less than the Patriot but if you are seeking more check them out.

I personally for me, I perfer a 4 cylinder. For going up in the mountains, towing, whatever we do, we got our pickup.
 
#43 ·
Wheezy said:
You haven't driven the newly redesigned GM full size SUVs then, if you feel that way. While I certainly respect that an SUV the size of a Patriot is adequate for your needs, that doesn't mean people buy larger SUVs for "performance" reasons, in the sense that they feel like taking it around a track.

I am quite biased, however, as I've been lucky enough to drive a brand new Tahoe for over a year before I got my Patriot. (It's my dad's Tahoe; I didn't give up a Tahoe for a Patriot ;)) My dad decided to upgrade to the Tahoe from a TrailBlazer, and the way the Tahoe handles in comparison to the TrailBlazer is unbelievable. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you'd have to be quite an idiot nowadays to roll over one of these 5000+lb beasts, thanks to all new anti-roll over mitigation systems.

We tow trailers and boats with the Tahoe, so I just can't see anything larger than a push-mower being towed behind the Patriot. I'm not saying the Patriot can't handle a boat (yes, I've seen many pictures to prove it), I'm just saying that it's much more comfortable towing something with a 5.3L V8, than a dinky little 4 cylinder CVT.

I apologize if I've severely annoyed/angered anyone, it's just that I tend to get irritated when people put down full-size SUVs for their "necessity" and other issues. I will agree that while the Tahoe isn't towing something on a weekly basis, it's put to more practical use than Escalades that have 24" wheels and are practically only a rolling status symbol.
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Not annoyed or angered here, takes a whole lot more than that to do it too me. I already been told we are going to be upgrading to a more fuller sized pickup instead of this little compacted Nissan Frontier we got for towing an 18 foot trailer.......................... Looking at Chevy or Dodge.......
 
#44 ·
I gotta say I'm very happy with my patriot, Pushing 3000 miles now and the gas mileage just keeps getting better.

I filled up yesterday after spending the weekend with my honey driving all over Kalamazoo shopping in and out of stores stop and go driving and still
averaged 25.4 mpg for a 4X4.

This is by far the best all around 4X4 i have ever owned and still look forward to driving it everyday. Would do it all over again and I really don't miss my Sierra or it's gas mileage.
 
#45 ·
I have basically the same car as ENTRUST except mine is a 2008. I absolutely love my car, but I do have some of the same gripes as you do. The small gas tank, the hard plastic interior. And yes the reverse on the shifter is still difficult to engage on the 2008. I've been averaging about 24mpg in mixed city/highway driving. I always upshift at 3000rpm, and keep my tires at 38psi. I find the acceleration great for a 4 cylinder, and it seems to have plenty of power, though I'm still breaking mine in and haven't really pushed it. On the highway it will go to 80 without my noticing, I have to curb my desire for speed as not to get a ticket. I paid close to 24K for mine, and yes it isn't chump change, but I think I got a lot for the money. I love the sunroof, and for an extra $1500 I have a lifetime warranty ($100 deductible). Imagine a lifetime warranty? This car will be in my possession for a very very long time (barring an accident).
 
#46 ·
RichJet5353 said:
I have basically the same car as ENTRUST except mine is a 2008. I absolutely love my car, but I do have some of the same gripes as you do. The small gas tank, the hard plastic interior. And yes the reverse on the shifter is still difficult to engage on the 2008. I've been averaging about 24mpg in mixed city/highway driving. I always upshift at 3000rpm, and keep my tires at 38psi. I find the acceleration great for a 4 cylinder, and it seems to have plenty of power, though I'm still breaking mine in and haven't really pushed it. On the highway it will go to 80 without my noticing, I have to curb my desire for speed as not to get a ticket. I paid close to 24K for mine, and yes it isn't chump change, but I think I got a lot for the money. I love the sunroof, and for an extra $1500 I have a lifetime warranty ($100 deductible). Imagine a lifetime warranty? This car will be in my possession for a very very long time (barring an accident).
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Just curious, but why do you find putting it in reverse difficult? I haven't had any problems with mine...
 
#48 ·
Wheezy said:
Just curious, but why do you find putting it in reverse difficult? I haven't had any problems with mine...
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The only problem I have with getting my autostick to go into reverse is remembering that I'm not in the Buick anymore, and that the gear shifter is not attached to the steering wheel in this car! :doh: I keep reaching up there looking to put my Jeep in park or reverse.
 
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#49 ·
Rake said:
Lots of good comments here. FWIW I'm car shopping and the limited range is a big, big issue for me.
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I take it you're young then? I know I NEED a break after driving 300 miles non-stop, so the gas/restroom break makes it a non-issue to me and others my age. (no, I won't drive with a diaper on to go farther between breaks so don't suggest it! I don't work for NASA :D)
 
#50 ·
demolaysgirl said:
The only problem I have with getting my autostick to go into reverse is remembering that I'm not in the Buick anymore, and that the gear shifter is not attached to the steering wheel in this car! :doh: I keep reaching up there looking to put my Jeep in park or reverse.
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My shift lever on my truck is on the column, so when I first started driving the Pat around, I cannot BEGIN to tell you how many times I squirted my windshield before I realized that lever wasn't the gear shifter! :eek:
 
#51 ·
Terasec said:
Pat is slow,very slow.
21 mpg for a 4 cyl is also pathetic,
6cyl liberty gets better mpg and much better acceleration.
I bought the pat for 4X4. And price, was better off with a liberty
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the liberty diesel gets that gas mileage but the regular liberty doesn't.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/23807.shtml

furthermore the people I have spoken to that had liberties said they didn't get the gas mileage that the epa says they should get for it.
 
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demolaysgirl said:
The only problem I have with getting my autostick to go into reverse is remembering that I'm not in the Buick anymore, and that the gear shifter is not attached to the steering wheel in this car! :doh: I keep reaching up there looking to put my Jeep in park or reverse.
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Oh, haha. I've done the same too, I drove my dad's new Tahoe for almost a year before I got my Patriot, and when I would start up the Patriot I would "change gears" but the wipers would do a cycle instead. ;)
 
#53 ·
cant go by epa or sticker

azelismia said:
the liberty diesel gets that gas mileage but the regular liberty doesn't.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/23807.shtml

furthermore the people I have spoken to that had liberties said they didn't get the gas mileage that the epa says they should get for it.
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i go by experience
on my neon sticker stated 29-41
real world with conservative driving got 20-30 mpg
in 200K miles never saw more than 32 mpg
with agressive driving can get mpg in the teens

have taken the liberty from NYC to toronto +800 miles round trip
a few times,
around town got 20mpg on the 6 cyl 4x4 liberty
on the highway, averaged 23 mpg
and i check milage by resetting my tripometer on every fill up
 
#54 ·
To answer Wheezy: Sometimes finding reverse is no problem, but half the time I think I have it and I really don't. It seems to stick when I pull the shifter back, giving the false feeling that the gear is engaged. After 2 weeks of having my new Pat I'm better at knowing when it's sticking and when it's really in. It's not a big deal and I'm sure it will get better with time, or maybe I'll get better at it with time.
 
#55 ·
dont have manual pat

RichJet5353 said:
To answer Wheezy: Sometimes finding reverse is no problem, but half the time I think I have it and I really don't. It seems to stick when I pull the shifter back, giving the false feeling that the gear is engaged. After 2 weeks of having my new Pat I'm better at knowing when it's sticking and when it's really in. It's not a big deal and I'm sure it will get better with time, or maybe I'll get better at it with time.
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so not sure if its the same,
did have similar problem on my neon,
at first i thought there was something wrong,
but Reverse was the same for 200K miles
sometimes you hit it,
sometimes you dont,
just got used to it and didnt really bother me
one of the quirks of knowing your vehicle
 
#56 ·
For all of you having a problem with reverse, do you:

1. Push in the clutch;
2. Take the transmission out of the forward gear;
3. Try to put it in reverse;
4. Release the clutch.

Or do you:

1. Push in the clutch;
2. Take the transmission out of the forward gear;
3. Release the clutch;
4. Push the clutch back in;
5. Put the transmission in reverse;
6. Release the clutch.

I think you will find it much easier to get into reverse if you take the extra steps listed in the second scenario. I have a manual Accord, and need to let-out-push-back-in the clutch to easily go from forward to reverse. I really don't think this is a "problem" with the Patriot's transmission.
 
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Terasec said:
i go by experience
on my neon sticker stated 29-41
real world with conservative driving got 20-30 mpg
in 200K miles never saw more than 32 mpg
with agressive driving can get mpg in the teens

have taken the liberty from NYC to toronto +800 miles round trip
a few times,
around town got 20mpg on the 6 cyl 4x4 liberty
on the highway, averaged 23 mpg
and i check milage by resetting my tripometer on every fill up
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Go look at www.Jeep.co.uk

42.2 mpg and they aint telling porkies!

Get with it America!
CRD Rules! - range 480+ miles
 
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