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#21 ·
Schoat333 said:
That exactly what I was thinking. There is definately plenty of room under the patriots hood for a top mount, but he will need to make some sort of duct to direct the air flow thru it.
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Yep, and the top portion of our front grille is blocked off. A good 1.5" worth along with a cover under the hood between the radiator and front grille. So you could make up a duct that pulls air from the top front of the grille and duct it up through the cover and over the engine.
 
#27 ·
Kudos for trying it! Not much clearence up top, looks like you may need to install a bulge up there. I like it!
 
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Are you running the CVT or a 5spd?
 
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todde702 said:
The Mazdaspeed 3 uses a top mount intercooler and those things go like stink! Of course they also have under hood plumbing to route the cold air down through it, but still.
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They also have turbo issues. Mazda for the longest time stated the use of thinner engine oils. The pressure from the system is such that it would case a leak, and you would end up with gas in your oil pan. This only happening in north america. Elsewhere they used the proper weight oil.

My friends mazda's oil smelled like gas every time we changed it, until the different weight oil was used. Their turbo's aren't the best.
 
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T_hill said:
Is it diesel or petrol? and how u find space to put a turbo in it? how much pound boost do you have it on?
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You supposedly know about pound boost but cant tell the difference between a petrol or diesel engine...:confused: sorry but I couldnt help myself.
 
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TJ99er said:
They also have turbo issues. Mazda for the longest time stated the use of thinner engine oils. The pressure from the system is such that it would case a leak, and you would end up with gas in your oil pan. This only happening in north america. Elsewhere they used the proper weight oil.

My friends mazda's oil smelled like gas every time we changed it, until the different weight oil was used. Their turbo's aren't the best.
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I don't think the oil/turbo issues are from the intercooler location though, and that's all I was really commenting on. It must work there or they wouldn't put it there. The Mitsubishi Turbo Diesels also locate the intercooler on top of the engine.
 
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Subaru has a long history of using top-mount intercoolers. I dare say, if a company knows what they're doing with a turbo, it's Subaru.

And rather than doing major bodywork to mold a scoop into the hood, you attach a shaker-style scoop to the top-mount intercoler, and cut a hole for it to stick out.
 
#37 ·
nth256 said:
Subaru has a long history of using top-mount intercoolers. I dare say, if a company knows what they're doing with a turbo, it's Subaru.

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same with Porsche
 
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t-Hill....... Turbos just spool up ur exhast valves so the air out you motor is more smooth like the cyclone effect, which smoother means way more HP, but as for the wear on the motor no.... its a supercharger that kills the life a motor if the motor wasn't designed for one.... But also a turbo with a lot of boost could add a little wear and tear, but his 4-6 lbs boost wont hurt.

So yes if this project works I'm going to be very excited to maybe try a turbo on my JEEP
 
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dw_jeep11 said:
t-Hill....... Turbos just spool up ur exhast valves so the air out you motor is more smooth like the cyclone effect, which smoother means way more HP, but as for the wear on the motor no.... its a supercharger that kills the life a motor if the motor wasn't designed for one.... But also a turbo with a lot of boost could add a little wear and tear, but his 4-6 lbs boost wont hurt.

So yes if this project works I'm going to be very excited to maybe try a turbo on my JEEP
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Uh... you're a bit misinformed.

A turbo does not "spool up" your "exhaust valves". It does not "smooth out" the air to give it a "cyclone effect" (Dysons do that). It DOES wear down the motor, if not properly built (and even IF properly built, most times). A supercharger does not necessarily wear an engine any more than a turbo, or even a naturaly aspirated lead foot for that matter. And 4-6lbs of boost could easliy blow his motor, if his tune runs lean or if he's moving massive CFMs at 4-6lbs.

Not trying to bust your balls, and I'm not calling you dumb or anything, but more or less everything you said was incorrect. If it were as simple as tacking on a turbo set to deliver 4-6lbs of boost, don't you think everyone would have done it by now?

Turbos are like women. They're a lot of fun to dream about, and guys brag about getting one and what they're gonna do with it; but when it comes down to it, they are expensive, require a lot of meticulous maintenance, and sometimes they blow up your junk. And whether you are willing to see it or not, you're basically getting married to it at some point.

But turbos won't bang your best friend after 7 shots at a party. +1 for turbos!:D
 
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nth256 said:
Turbos are like women. They're a lot of fun to dream about, and guys brag about getting one and what they're gonna do with it; but when it comes down to it, they are expensive, require a lot of meticulous maintenance, and sometimes they blow up your junk. And whether you are willing to see it or not, you're basically getting married to it at some point.

But turbos won't bang your best friend after 7 shots at a party. +1 for turbos!:D
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LMAO hahaha! fan-fu@%ing-tastic!:notworthy:

i think that NEEDS to be your signature.:D
 
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