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You all just must live on a different planet than I do.

Here, cold starts at 50°F. That's when I have to go inside and get a jacket before I go anywhere.
At 40°F, everyone is talking about the weather.
At 30°F (which only happens once a year or so) everyone stops what they are doing and brings in the pets, plants, etc.

Arizona Republic Weather article
 
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I wonder if maybe Canadian made North Edition Pats along with the added block heaters may have different thermostats and/or egr setups for our colder climates? Just a guess:confused:
 
You all just must live on a different planet than I do.

Here, cold starts at 50°F. That's when I have to go inside and get a jacket before I go anywhere.
At 40°F, everyone is talking about the weather.
At 30°F (which only happens once a year or so) everyone stops what they are doing and brings in the pets, plants, etc.
When I was a grub, I lived in upper state NY. It gets a little cool there in the winters. It was so funny when my family moved to Southern California. I was waiting for the bus in the middle winter. It was about 50 degrees. I was in my short sleeves and my classmates were in parkas and gloves!! I am not kidding. They were shivering in 50 degree weather and I was a little warm. All depends on where you come from. :)
 
Have any of yous guys seen that King of the Hill episode where the camera tracks the progress of the little twinkling snowflake for about a minute as it floats down through the sky and, all alone, lands on a street in Arlen, Texas (fictitious, of course) and lays there, all sparkling, in total isolation. Then, along comes this huge great "Canyonero" with Country Music blazing. One tyre goes over the snowflake and the 4-by-4 goes hurtling out of control, crashes through a gasoline station and sets the town on fire! Hank steps forward to help control "civil unrest" on the grounds that "Texans don't do snow"!
My family have e-mailed and Skyped regularly over the last three weeks to check that I'm OK. I love 'em, all of 'em. How's a sixty-four year-old going to manage without folks to care for him? :)
In the same episode, the kid, Bobby, sees the snow coming down, thinks it's ash and asks if there's a volcano goin' off somewhere; as though a volcano would be far more normal in Texas than snow! As if!
Having said that, and had some fun at the expense of the Texans, if you've ever spent the night stuck in a restaurant while a full-blooded ice-storm was going on outside in West Texas then you'll know you've had more excitement than most people can use on a Friday winter's evening.....

Rocal
 
You all just must live on a different planet than I do.
Nope, I hear people whining about the weather all the time here too. I just don't understand them. Really? It's snowing in Finland during the winter? Did this somehow surprise everybody once again? Besides, that's what four wheel drive is for. :) Goodness, it's cold too? Imagine that. Although I don't really think it's quite that bad. Of course, I actually wear a friggin' hat and otherwise dress a bit more appropriately for the conditions as well, than people who wear just a t-shirt and jeans under a thin jacket and rely on the buses to maintain their schedules in order to not freeze to death.
 
Yesterday morning it was 11F when I got to work, this morning it was 13F. I wore a jacket, but no gloves or hat. Although I do have gloves and hat in the Jeep, and a fleece pull-over, and often have another set of boots too. In winter I try to be prepared if I have to walk for some reason.

I get acclimated early to the cold though, as I'm usually out in the mountains all fall, starting with archery hunting through rifle season. Sit out in a tree stand in 4-20 degree weather, and then later sometimes in below zero weather, and you get used to the cold.
 
Although I do have gloves and hat in the Jeep, and a fleece pull-over, and often have another set of boots too. In winter I try to be prepared if I have to walk for some reason.
That seems to be a very wise thing to do. And it is both cheap and easy since all you are doing is storing some clothes you probably already own. Even if you have to walk one mile, these clothes can save your comfort and perhaps even your life if that mile is through freezing rain.


I am thinkin about a small overnight bag with a pair of extra large pants (to fit over the ones you are wearing, a big sweater, a coat/heavy hoodie and some slip on boots and you might find yourself related to Robert. :D

That is an excellent idea. Thanks for posting.
 
Tony1911:

I agree with you. Up here in Northern Michigan, it is also disheartening at times to hear people (well, perhaps not so much regular,everyday folks, but more its the damn hyperactive tv weatherfolks) get hysterical just because there has been an inch or two of snow or that the wind chills are in the -20 Degree F range. It happens every year, and is NORMAL for our region.

People in the North generally know how to live in the winter. And it does mean some pretty obvious things:

1. Wear hats and gloves (at least most of the time)
2. Grow a beard and moustache (male only) or let your regular beard and moustache grow out a bit more (again, male only, please).
3. Have a pair of good boots in your vehicle.
4. Keep your vehicle filled with fuel and refill roughly when you are at 1/2 a tank.
5. Have a good ice scraper and snow brush in your vehicle.
6. Have a spare set of gloves and hat in your vehicle.
7. Stay home and relax with a beer or bourbon (or both) if it looks risky to drive. No appointment is that important.

PipeTobacco
 
Tony1911:

I agree with you. Up here in Northern Michigan, it is also disheartening at times to hear people (well, perhaps not so much regular,everyday folks, but more its the damn hyperactive tv weatherfolks) get hysterical just because there has been an inch or two of snow or that the wind chills are in the -20 Degree F range. It happens every year, and is NORMAL for our region.

People in the North generally know how to live in the winter. And it does mean some pretty obvious things:

1. Wear hats and gloves (at least most of the time)
2. Grow a beard and moustache (male only) or let your regular beard and moustache grow out a bit more (again, male only, please).
3. Have a pair of good boots in your vehicle.
4. Keep your vehicle filled with fuel and refill roughly when you are at 1/2 a tank.
5. Have a good ice scraper and snow brush in your vehicle.
6. Have a spare set of gloves and hat in your vehicle.
7. Stay home and relax with a beer or bourbon (or both) if it looks risky to drive. No appointment is that important.

PipeTobacco
Similar weather (espcially the wind chill temps) and same rules here in Chicago. Same idiots on the road that act they have never seen snow before too.
 
5. Have a good ice scraper and snow brush in your vehicle.
Actually, my rule is that each vehicle needs to have at least two ice scrapers. Those things can be surprisingly fragile when the temperatures are cold enough and the ice on your windows is strong enough. (Yes, I did see the part where you specified a good ice scraper, and these are way less likely to snap in half than the usual ones, but... Well, I guess I've broken enough of them in the past to not entirely trust any single scraper.)
 
Here's something you don't expect to read: they have something in Russia that we could really do with. Last year, on the news, there was an item about how Russians cope with truly unbelievable cold weather. They have ice-scrapers for car windows that are both fantastic and totally unobtainable anywhere around here. What a market! These ice-scrapers are chunky plastic, but they are a two-handed job. They're almost like a curved shovel with a big beefy blade at the business end that you scythe the ice off with. I've never seen anything like them over here; if I had seen one it'd definitely be sitting propped up against my back seat right now.

Rocal

just been on Google looking for one . There's something like it available from an outfit in Wei Jun City in China; wouldn't fancy risking my MasterCard on that one though....
 
Tony1911:

I agree with you. Up here in Northern Michigan, it is also disheartening at times to hear people (well, perhaps not so much regular,everyday folks, but more its the damn hyperactive tv weatherfolks) get hysterical just because there has been an inch or two of snow or that the wind chills are in the -20 Degree F range. It happens every year, and is NORMAL for our region.

People in the North generally know how to live in the winter. And it does mean some pretty obvious things:

1. Wear hats and gloves (at least most of the time)
2. Grow a beard and moustache (male only) or let your regular beard and moustache grow out a bit more (again, male only, please).
3. Have a pair of good boots in your vehicle.
4. Keep your vehicle filled with fuel and refill roughly when you are at 1/2 a tank.
5. Have a good ice scraper and snow brush in your vehicle.
6. Have a spare set of gloves and hat in your vehicle.
7. Stay home and relax with a beer or bourbon (or both) if it looks risky to drive. No appointment is that important.

PipeTobacco
All good advice above. I'd add one:

8. Dress in layers, not just one huge coat. Let the last layer be wind & water resistant. Wind & rain are worse than snow and cold.
 
mine sounds a little busy when first started but is ok after it warms up

my temp guage needle only goes a tad past the first mark when it is below 32 deg. is that normal ! i cant remember what it did last year. heat seems to be ok out of vents.
 
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