I'm not really sure how to discribe it, but it sounds like creeking or rattling to me. I think it might be something with the suspension, but I don't know. Anyway, when it is really cold out, like -10C to -15C our Patriot creeks or rattles when we turn corners for the first 2-3 mins. After we drive a bit and the car has a chanse to warm up it goes away. It only happens for the first couple corners really and occurs while turning left or right. Dose anyone else have this issue? It's driving my wife nuts.....
Creeking/rattling under the hood while turning? Very Cold Weather
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It just came to me what the sound resembles. It sounds like a tall tree creaking and groaning as it gets blown by the wind, or like a wooden boat creaks as it rolls in some swells.
Mine doesn't really sound like a creaking....more like a knocking, but then goes away after first 4-5 turns (when car is warmed up). I keep thinking it is some lubrication or a "self-lubricating" part that is stuck when cold or something?? I am definitely NOT a mechanic, but I really wish they would figure out the problem and am disheartened to hear you have the same problem on the 2009! Oh well, will keep updating as I find out more - thanks!
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Hmmm. Mine's not a knock at all, strange.
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I seem to get about the same thing from my 09 Pat.. But it seems like the temperature is unrelated to the issue as it happened at temperature between -15ºC and 5ºC, even after a 20 minutes highway drive..
When I turn, a low speed (between 10 and 20 km/h) and low rpm (under 2k in 1st or 2nd speed of the cvt), a crackling sound comes out of the engine department as well as some vibration in the steering wheel and it can be felt in the seat too (not that much).
Is this the issue you have?
When I turn, a low speed (between 10 and 20 km/h) and low rpm (under 2k in 1st or 2nd speed of the cvt), a crackling sound comes out of the engine department as well as some vibration in the steering wheel and it can be felt in the seat too (not that much).
Is this the issue you have?
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Not really. Mine is a creaking sound and there's no vibration.
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I have this issue on my 09 patriot also, and have now been told it is down to the hydraulic suspension when it is cold it settles the oil in the shock absorbers, and when it warms up thats why you no longer get the noise as the oil is moving around, I am not that up on the suspension of the car does this sound right ??
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Doesn't sound right. The noise on mine is only when the steering wheel is turned about 3/4 of the way to lock, and there's no noise going over speed bumps, etc. which there would be if it was the shocks.
Mine does not make noise going over bumps either, so not sure about it being the shocks, however, I would rule nothing out at this point. My Jeep is back in the shop (4th time in 8 weeks) and they have told me they will be putting "electronic ears" somewhere under the hood so they can pinpoint where the noise is coming from. All I know is that it is NOT that things need to be "re-torqued" and it is NOT the axle that needs to be replaced. Have any of you taken your vehicle in for service of this problem and/or has anyone reported the problem to Jeep? (I just wonder as I keep being told that no one has heard of this issue and that it is specific to only my vehicle).
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Really guys, it sounds like we are diagnosing multiple issues here. TrooperAlex: A "crackling" sound? That don't sound good, bud. That could be an issue with the power-steering pump, or mabe the CV joint. WoodenDog: That sounds like maybe the sway-bar bushings on yours ARE loose. Did you have the dealer look at it? I think there's a TSB published on that. cmpetrin: I still think your's sounds like the strut. Check out D6709's post. I think his dealer hit the nail on the head.
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Well, my noise has come back this morning since it's -15C out again. But I can't taker it to the dealership because I'm having to have the windshield replaced today thanx to a rock chip that almost instantly changed to a 5 inch crack.
I do want to try lubricating the strut before driving to see if that is it, but I'm pretty sure it won't be the cause. If it was the cause it should make a noise when I go over bumps too right? but it doesn't.
My wife just keeps telling me it's the drive shaft, but I can't feel it in the steering, I only hear it under to hood somewhere on the drivers side front.
I do want to try lubricating the strut before driving to see if that is it, but I'm pretty sure it won't be the cause. If it was the cause it should make a noise when I go over bumps too right? but it doesn't.
My wife just keeps telling me it's the drive shaft, but I can't feel it in the steering, I only hear it under to hood somewhere on the drivers side front.
Just an update on noise under hood when cold....my jeep is now in the shop for the 12th day, which is why I have not posted anything new. Anyway, the right axle/drive shaft has now been replaced (left was previously done), however, noise is still present when turning in cold. Today's theory is that it is the TRANSMISSION. Apparently, Jeep is having some "issues" w/transmissions, and because this is where the noise is coming from, the service manager is now telling me my vehicle may be one w/a faulty transmission. He has been told by Chrysler that the problem is only acoustical, and not detrimental. Although, he also said Chrysler does not know what causes the problem or how to fix it (so how can they say it is not detrimental?). Anyway, I am not a mechanic, but this does not seem to make sense to me. If it were a problem w/transmission, wouldn't the noise be present upon start-up and take off, going straight as well as when turning? Wouldn't noise be present regardless of temperature outside? Again, my vehicle started this noise at two weeks of owning, so I do not believe it has anything to do w/mileage and/or use...I am just wondering what others think of this theory? Any other suggestions that may have not been mentioned before?
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Sounds pretty lame to me. Do you have CVT or 5-speed transmission?
Mine can't be the transmission, it only happens when turning the steering wheel in cold weather(mostly cold, at least) and it doesn't sound like any transmission sound I can imagine.
Mine can't be the transmission, it only happens when turning the steering wheel in cold weather(mostly cold, at least) and it doesn't sound like any transmission sound I can imagine.
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The dealer looked at it twice last winter/spring, but not for this latest episode. I'm going to take it in for the 12000 mile check of the CV boots/joints/whatever sometime in the next month or two, may wait until then, unless I have a chance to get it in sooner. Looks like they would have seen loose sway-bar bushings before....the only TSB I saw that was a little related applied to Patriots built before my build date....
I have CVT and this doesn't sound like a transmission issue to me either. Previously a tech and the service manager had both agreed, but now they are running out of theories as everything in front has been replaced. I am not willing to accept this is a problem "with no solution". I am afraid perhaps they are "writing it off" as a transmission issue because they don't have a "fix" for the tranny issue - I am not willing to live with a BRAND NEW vehicle that makes such a noise, and yet I don't know what to do about this. I am just sick over all of this and paying for a vehilce that I have not had for over 1/2 of a month now...
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TSB= Technical Service Bulletin.
here's a list:
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5794
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Mine does it intermittently, again, mostly when the temp is below 50F or so, and at low speeds.
My update is that my Patriot has now been in the shop for a total of 26 days. They are now replacing the transmission tomorrow. They tried "swapping" another left axle shaft w/a new one on lot, but that did not solve the problem, so are again onto the transmission being the problem. Makes me nervous. If this truly is the transmission, and other people are having problems, wonder what the chances are that the "new" transmission will be faulty as well? If anyone else has an update and/or has taken in their vehicle for this problem, please advise ASAP as I would like to end this nightmare! Thanks
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