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Ignatz said:
I appreciate your attitude. Seems some folks will treat a car with a problem like a horse with a broken leg and shoot it. :(

Nor is it worth a brouhaha with a dealer -- why add to their stress? Hey, its Christmastime! There's something about "good will toward men" that too few people understand: it starts with me!

Meanwhile they're running their business and you're choosing not to be a part of it. Better to agree to disagree than get into a scrap.
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Yeah, I agree with you Ignatz. Some people have said to me I should sell it, others have said the pulling doesn't sound a major issue and I've got a perfectly good car to drive that I should just put up with and enjoy. I kind of agree.

I was out tonight on the motorway, and my Patriot really is uber sensitive to road camber and disturbances, so I feel I have to more so have two hands on the wheel rather than one (well, I can have one, two is just more secure), but now I've driven this car so much looking at this issue, it's clear as day that it pulls right when the camber is rightwards, which is just a lot less. Also, on some dead flat roads with no disturbances, my Patriot will drive straight down the middle. Why it's so sensitive to camber and bumps I may not ever know, but as long as the tyres aren't abnormally wearing quickly, I have an off-road vehicle with great MPG, low tax and decent acceleration, which is a joy to drive. It takes corners better than my old little VW did.
 
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Regarding the pulling left and right, if you haven't already you could try lower tire pressures. It can happen that you are riding primarily on the center of the tire, which is ok on a very flat road, but on an off camber surface the tire starts to ride on the center plus one side of the tire. Lowering the pressure slightly helps settle the tire flatter and distributes weight evenly across the tread.
 
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zoner99 said:
Regarding the pulling left and right, if you haven't already you could try lower tire pressures. It can happen that you are riding primarily on the center of the tire, which is ok on a very flat road, but on an off camber surface the tire starts to ride on the center plus one side of the tire. Lowering the pressure slightly helps settle the tire flatter and distributes weight evenly across the tread.
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Thanks bro I will try this. It's been aggravated even more I think by putting these new semi off-road tyres on. My car is ridiculously sensitive to camber and bumps/disturbances!
 
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zoner99 said:
Regarding the pulling left and right, if you haven't already you could try lower tire pressures. It can happen that you are riding primarily on the center of the tire, which is ok on a very flat road, but on an off camber surface the tire starts to ride on the center plus one side of the tire. Lowering the pressure slightly helps settle the tire flatter and distributes weight evenly across the tread.
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Now I would have guessed the opposite. I've always thought that over-inflation made the sidewalls more rigid while under-inflation made them squishy so it would wander more. In the days before fiberglass belts and steel belts cars wandered all the time.
 
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Ignatz said:
Now I would have guessed the opposite. I've always thought that over-inflation made the sidewalls more rigid while under-inflation made them squishy so it would wander more. In the days before fiberglass belts and steel belts cars wandered all the time.
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You're right also, underinflation will make the tires feel 'squishy' and wander while over inflation makes them feel stiff. I'd call the issue I described something like 'darty over bumps' rather than constant wandering. Particularly if you have increased your tire size and therefore increased the weight carrying capacity of the tires, the factory air pressure spec may be too high. Yesterday I happened to drive behind a JKU that was riding only on the center of its rear tires on the road. That won't do well when braking I imagine ;-)
 
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235/65/17 fits on my 2011 with a slight rub up front on the plastic wheel well liner at full lock, went with Hankook Dynapro ATM as they are rated as off road/snow tires, great for Michigan winters and pot hole summers! Cost was $530 mounted and balanced from a local tire guy, or order them online and have them mounted for $15 each. Rated best tire by CR, and highly rated online overall.
 

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