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What is the difference between Freedom Drive I and Freedom Drive II?

From the official press release:

Jeep Patriot will be available in three drive configurations: front-wheel drive, Freedom Drive I (a full-time, active four-wheel-drive system with lock mode) and Freedom Drive II Off-Road Package (a full-time, active 4x4 system with low range that provides true Jeep 4x4 Trail Rated capability).

Freedom Drive I is designed to give drivers year-round assurance, as well as the ability to handle rough weather and low-traction conditions. This active four-wheel-drive system is recommended for daily use, including driving in snow and rain. Freedom Drive I features a lockable center coupling, giving drivers the ability to handle deeper snow, sand and other low-traction surfaces.

The Freedom Drive II Off-Road Package is an available four-wheel-drive system that makes the Jeep Patriot a Trail Rated 4x4, creating the most capable vehicle in the crowded compact SUV class. The Freedom Drive II Off-Road Package includes a second-generation continuously variable transaxle with a low range (CVT2L) that engages when the off-road mode is activated, 17-inch all-terrain tires and aluminum wheels, a full-size spare tire, air-filtration system, skid plates, tow hooks, fog lamps and seat-height adjuster. The available Freedom Drive II Off-Road Package is recommended for true off-road situations that include steep grades, wheel lift and rock or log climbing.

The Freedom Drive II Off-Road Package includes the CVT2L’s best-in-class 19:1 low ratio, which is ideal for crawling over obstacles. Off-Road Brake Traction Control maintains forward mobility during heavy articulation or on split-friction surfaces where one wheel loses traction. Hill Descent Control modulates brake hydraulic pressure without driver intervention for downhill assistance at a safe and controlled rate of speed. Three-mode ESP and off-road anti-lock brakes (ABS) also add to the Patriot’s off-road capability.

Jeep Patriot SUVs equipped with the Freedom Drive II Off-Road Package sit 1 inch higher than non-Trail Rated versions and meet Jeep off-road capability requirements for traction, water fording, articulation, maneuverability and ground clearance, including 9 inches of ground clearance, a 29-degree approach angle, a 33-degree departure angle and a 23-degree breakover angle. This version of the Patriot also has additional body sealing and high-mounted drivetrain vents to support 19-inch water fording capability. The Trail Rated Jeep Patriot’s body and chassis were developed and tested over numerous rugged off-road terrains to meet the requirements of the enthusiast Jeep customer.
 
I read this and reread this. It cleared up some questions I had and has made me want to test drive it all the more.

I wonder at what point is the snow considered "deeper" for the FDI...

I am sure that the only one I will look at is the FDII. I am very interested. Thanks for posting it.
 
I got told this and I do not know if it is correct but the 1 inch extra is due to the tires and not a lift kit being installed. if you ordered the FDI with the OWL17" ties you would have the same setup.

The big difference was the air filtration system skid plates tow hooks and hill decent and changes to the esp program and of course the lower gearing in the CVT

the skid plates and air system were options when ordering....

this was from a sales guy who owned a pat and seems very into his jeeps we had a wonderful conversation and at no time did I feel the sales guy doublespeek......he seemed a real enthusiast
 
I am confused.

My Patriot window sticker says CVT II... which is the same as FDII, right?
So why don't I have a "trail rated" badge?
Good question - perhaps it is a Top Secret Homeland Security special? Shhhh! Don't let anyone know!

Interesting - did you happen to get skid plates, tow hooks, and other goodies that come with the FDII? If so, perhaps they forgot the badge or they made a mistake with the build.
 
OOPS! NOT!

I am confused.

My Patriot window sticker says CVT II... which is the same as FDII, right?
So why don't I have a "trail rated" badge?
ALL of us have CVT2, to get the badge you need a CVT2L, notice the L. Stands for low range. (and BAD Gas mileage)
 
Trail Rated Badge

In order to get the Trail Rated Badge you have to purchase the FDII Package which includes:
-Air Filter
-OWL 215/65/17 Tires
-Skid Plates
-Tow Hooks
-More Sealant on Doors
-19:1 Low Range
-ESP/ABS Alterations
-Hill Decent Control
-Bracing on the rear suspension
-Stiffer coil springs on suspension
-Fog Lights
The tires alone lift the Jeep about 1/2 inch and the stiffer springs the other 1/2 inch.
 
My truck has a 6 spd manual tranny and the car we traded in on this Jeep had a 6 spd manual as well. I will take the FDII and give my leg a rest for a while. Of the 5 Jeeps I have owned 2 were manual and 3 have been autos. All have been great in the mud and I expect this one will be just fine once I get it to a mud hole.
 
Jeep Patriot newbie...

Wonder if you put the CVT2 FDI tires (smaller) on the FDII Trail Rated model...it would lower it half an inch and have the potential for better on road mpg's? Or is it all in the CVT2Lgearing?

I tend to have 2 sets of tires, so I couldn't help but wonder! :D
 
Freedom Drive II Off-Road Group for 2008

Freedom Drive II Off-Road Group for 2008
Package includes >>
• 4-Wheel Drive Off-Road Mode
• 140-Ampere Alternator
• Hill Descent Control
• Brake Lock Differential
• Height-Adjustable Driver's Seat
• Passenger Assist Handles
• Air Filtering
• Fog Lamps
• "Trail Rated" Badge
• Engine Oil Cooler
• Full-Size Spare Tire
• P215/65R17 Outline White Letter All Terrain Tires
• 17" x 6.5" Aluminum Wheels
• Tow Hooks
• Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
• Transmission/Engine Oil Pan Skid Plate
 
I got told this and I do not know if it is correct but the 1 inch extra is due to the tires and not a lift kit being installed. if you ordered the FDI with the OWL17" ties you would have the same setup.

The big difference was the air filtration system skid plates tow hooks and hill decent and changes to the esp program and of course the lower gearing in the CVT

the skid plates and air system were options when ordering....

this was from a sales guy who owned a pat and seems very into his jeeps we had a wonderful conversation and at no time did I feel the sales guy doublespeek......he seemed a real enthusiast
I think the height difference due to tires has thoroughly been relegated to the myth category. The FDII has 1 inch taller springs. This is not only specified in the manual but a fellow that works at the factory confirmed this and that the entire rear assembly is different between the FDI and FDII.
 
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I wonder if you can put a FDII brain in the FDI.not to sound like a fool but I tried to see if there were any difference in part #'s for tranny,axle and transfer case and I did not see any.Is it the CVT that gives it the lower gear ratio since it is not like a regular transmission.Just confused
 
I wonder if you can put a FDII brain in the FDI.not to sound like a fool but I tried to see if there were any difference in part #'s for tranny,axle and transfer case and I did not see any.Is it the CVT that gives it the lower gear ratio since it is not like a regular transmission.Just confused
From previous research, there are different part numbers for the rear drive unit and the rear drive electric clutch, as well as a CVT2 vs CVT2L (for low range). It could be the CVT2L just has a different ring and pinion, but if so, it's gonna be matched to the rear drive unit.
 
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