Hi, I'm looking into getting a new vehicle soon. My first choice so far is a patriot, I'm starting to love them more and more. I still need to test drive one, but I kinda want a 4x4 and jeeps seem like the affordable 4x4s, plus they still have plety of room to haul stuff around. I'm wondering how Reliable they are, from all your experiences andif you recomend patriots. How many miles do you have and what problems or just regular services did you need so far. I use to hear the older jeeps weren't that reliable. Are the new ones any better. I'm looking to get maybe a 2015 or 2016. Also is there different ride heights from ground between the different classes? (Sport, sport se, latitude, etc.) What's the Maine difereence you need, or packages you need to want to go a little off roading, or to start.? Thank you for your time.
how reliable is your patriot, and do you recomend one
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in 07 FDII required cvt
dont know if that has changed
also standard tow capacity on Pats is 1000 lbs
that increases to 2000 lbs with addition of oil cooler and higher amp alternator,
oil cooler and high amp alternator was part of tow package option
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From what you've said, I'd get the 6AT then. WAY nicer to daily driver, and has nearly the crawl ratio of FDII.
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thanks again. I found more info on the difference FDII and FDI and yes FDII is with cvt only I believe from what I gotout of this info.
Jeep Capabilities - Towing Capacity Chart
http://www.jeep.com/en/4x4/
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Yes, FDII is only with CVT. The 6AT in 1st is not that far off from the FDII in crawl though. And you don't have to drive a CVT.
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according to those links you can still get tow prep group to increase to 2000lbs.
I find it odd if I select to add the tow prep group at says I need to get ride of the AT tires I added and put the season tires in order to put the tow prep.
would you have any idea why that is so?
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No clue.
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thanks guys, you've been awesome and very informative.
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That's mine, and yes, I did add a lift later, an RRO lift kit.
Here are some videos post lift:
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sweet.
how much of a lift did it give you.
would u happen to have a link or name of the kit you used just so I can get an idea and maybe research more and some.
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Search the site, and you'll find more information than you ever would want about the lift kit.
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Calicojack, If your still deciding which tranny is best, don't overlook the cvt. Yes it is louder than a normal manual but they are a pretty fun transmission. I own a 2012 FDI 4x4 and have 50000 on it right now and have no complaints on the performance. I also drive a FDII that is a 2016 with 4500 miles on it now and find it to be quieter than my 12 model. Though it is a mile or 2 per gallon harder on gas it's not bad. Also, the FDII package gets you the skid plates extra tranny coolingm, tow hooks, hill decent control, and a more aggressive Brake Lock Differential setting. It does add up to more capability, I can go more places with FDII. There is an option on the Sport model that will get you the FDI tranny with hooks and skid plates if you don't want all the fetures of the FDII.
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That's what I did also!
The fact that it's a chrlysler product means it tanks in value the first couple years (which is a huge benefit to the used buyer)
Mine was over $27K new.... got it for $16k one year old. :grin2:
owned quite a few Jeeps over the years and my personal choice for a Patriot would be 4x4 with 5 speed manual. Add a good CB radio and self recovery gear and she'll be fine for easy trails. The body and suspension is not really beefed up enough for hard core wheeling. Have fun!
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Another Michigander, and a Yooper at that? Ya gotta bring 'em to Jeep Creep(Jeep Creep at Riverwalk Place in Gladwin, Michigan). And maybe you and rcguymike could arrange wheeling at another time.
But back on topic, yes, Patriot is a good vehicle, and CVT is SORELY underrated. No need for a stinkin' 6-spd auto when the CVT's been working just fine all along. Just needs a little TLC, is all.
Most vehicles drop 60% in the first three years; probably half of that in the first year. Once its been titled, its a used vehicle.
How had I missed this thread before? Yes, the Patriot is a great vehicle. I'm over 200,000 miles and I've only spent chump change on repairs.
Like RossoRacer, I'm a CVT fan. Its a manual if I want it to be, or an automatic when that's better. Its the best of both worlds.
Admittedly my first CVT failed at 100,000 miles, but I've got more than that on my replacement and so far no problems.
My Patriot gets great fuel economy (I average c29mpg), it rides good on scrappy roads (like potholes and frost heaves), has good cargo space, and even with FWD its not afraid of a snowstorm.
Like RossoRacer, I'm a CVT fan. Its a manual if I want it to be, or an automatic when that's better. Its the best of both worlds.
Admittedly my first CVT failed at 100,000 miles, but I've got more than that on my replacement and so far no problems.
My Patriot gets great fuel economy (I average c29mpg), it rides good on scrappy roads (like potholes and frost heaves), has good cargo space, and even with FWD its not afraid of a snowstorm.
How much did it cost to repair the failed CVT? Mine is at 100K miles and making the whining noise I read about on this and other forums so I fear a repair coming. You don't expect to do major power train repair at only 100K so not sure I can really say Patriots are great vehicles.
My CVT began a humming sound at 110,000 miles. Just started one winter morning. No performance problems, just the hum. Fortunately mine was covered by the lifetime warranty they were offering in 2008 so it didn't cost me a dime. Meanwhile I got a new Chrysler to drive for a week.
Statistically the CVT has a better repair record than conventional automatics. My replacement CVT has now gone 110,000 miles since with no problems.
I've had conventional automatics fail at 50,000
1986 Buick Electra, bought new
1997 Olds Bravada, bought new
I've had one conventional automatic go over 200,000 (2001 Pontiac Grand Prix) started shifting real harsh at around 235,000 but continued to get me around. Donated it to Good News Garage when the ECM fried -- just wasn't worth fixing when I knew the tranny was dying too.
All my other vehicles went 100,000+ and were sold, traded, or donated before having any problems. Probably owned 20 vehicles in my life, but didn't stopped to count just now.
I'm at 222,000 presently and that stands as the only monumental repair. I had to replace the engine harness about a year ago (190,000) but I felt it was worthwhile to it keep going. And yes, I would buy another CVT and another Patriot -- ideally a FWD Patriot with the 2.4 and CVT like my 2008.
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I have a 2008 2.0L 4x2 CVT with 140,000 miles (bought it at 20,000 miles) which I use as a daily driver. It's been totally reliable. It's been serviced at our local Jeep dealership ever since I've had it. Apart from maintenance parts, battery, and tires, the only thing that needed replacing was the front and rear struts which I did about 2,000 miles ago. I decided on KYB Excel-G instead of the OEM parts, and bought all the parts listed on KYB's website (bellows, mounting kit, etc) - I thought that I might as well change them all at the same time. The dealership advised that the springs didn't need changing, and I had them do the installation and wheel alignment.
I don't do off road and like the CVT, though it takes getting used to.
I don't do off road and like the CVT, though it takes getting used to.
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Bought new 2014 2.4 Sport FWD 5-speed with air but manual everything else for $15k. I love my Jeep at 24,000 miles.
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