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I have a 4x2 grey '07 with the stock 16" steelies and 35 k miles on the original 205 tires, (so they're about to kick it).
I've been looking up for what tires to buy in order to replace the originals, because I wanted something a little fatter than the original 205, but did not want to spend the extra cash on wider rims.
Consequently, I did a lot of reading and decide to chart what other members had tried already with & without modifications.
Again this is merely to save newbies some reading and it is limited to 16".
I am listing the tire & the member who tried it.
Whoever wants more info, just search their postings and will be able to check their pics.


Tires that fit w/o mods:

215/70/16 (Jimbobb1).
225/70/16 (trainerbyday).
225/75/16 (Tyler-98-W68).
235/60/16 (Weezy) & (Cyberpine).
295/50/16 (Cyberpine) *on 8"wheels (stock steelies are only 6.5" wide).


Fits w/mods:

245/70/16 (Tilley, Hvac59 & Copper).

Problems:

the back of the front wheel (in tires this size) rub in the section of the inner liner covering the pinch weld.

Solutions:

Everyone seems to have to either cut or hammer down the pinch weld & reposition the liner with the help of a heat gun...

Note for newbies:

If you are handy you may try it at your own risk, but note they all ride lifted Pat's and had different wheels on...


Do not fit:

255/65/16 (Cyberpine) * they fit, but rub so badly on hard brakes that he had to have the store replace them.

Thanks:

To all the members cited above, for being kind enough to share their experience with the rest of us, so we know know what to do (or not to do) now. Thank you ‘all!
 
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Excellent first post! Thanks!

Caution - the backspacing on a wheel is critical to fit or don't fit. Several of those listed above don't have stock 16" rims and some are lifted.

235/70-16 fits without rubbing on a lifted Pat and 16X8, 5" BS, no mods (other than RRO lift)

I've been meaning to submit a similar thread to the knowledge base, but haven't got around to it. It would be great if you could do this!
 
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225/75/16 works great in my case, I really notice the how much more sidewall there is with these tires, almost too much. A lift would make a bit more room and make the look a little bit more balanced (although this is only my opinion)

In terms of fitting they fit fine but do rub at full lock either way, but on the inside fender part (as highlighted by heckler in my thread). The sidewall and lugs near the outside are rather large and agressive, with a less agressive tire you may not get any rubbing but I can't guarantee that.

The goodyear wrangler territory tires I have are noisey, so in your case with a 4x2 i'm not sure if you want something that loud, but I bet even with a 4x2 pat you could go through alot with these tires.

Hope that helps:smiley_thumbs_up:
 
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I see nobody got bigger 17". I personally find our 2 tones rims awesome. I think we can go up to 235/65/R17 right?

Any bigger 17" on stock rims around?
 
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Kahbrohn said:
I would appreciate this very much. I am planning ahead and would like to have the size part of my decision making process done.
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As promised I just posted a compilation of whatever I was able to find on 17" as a separate thread.

It seems like so far you may go safely up to 225/65/17 because although some members report no rubbing on 235/65/17, some other do; Particularly rear tires rubbing with the spring, requiring then to use spacers. (I guess it depends in the wheel backspacing), so if you decide to go that size, please review carefully the experience reported by each member that I cited in the compilation.

Some very brave kids went up to 245/65/17 but they all reported some rubbing.

Good Luck!
 
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Ramiroum said:
I have a 4x2 grey '07 with the stock 16" steelies and 35 k miles on the original 205 tires, (so they're about to kick it).
I've been looking up for what tires to buy in order to replace the originals, because I wanted something a little fatter than the original 205, but did not want to spend the extra cash on wider rims.
Consequently, I did a lot of reading and decide to chart what other members had tried already with & without modifications.
Again this is merely to save newbies some reading and it is limited to 16".
I am listing the tire & the member who tried it.
Whoever wants more info, just search their postings and will be able to check their pics.


Tires that fit w/o mods:

215/70/16 (Jimbobb1).
225/70/16 (trainerbyday).
225/75/16 (Tyler-98-W68).
235/60/16 (Weezy) & (Cyberpine).
295/50/16 (Cyberpine) *on 8"wheels (stock steelies are only 6.5" wide).


Fits w/mods:

245/70/16 (Tilley, Hvac59 & Copper).

Problems:

the back of the front wheel (in tires this size) rub in the section of the inner liner covering the pinch weld.

Solutions:

Everyone seems to have to either cut or hammer down the pinch weld & reposition the liner with the help of a heat gun...

Note for newbies:

If you are handy you may try it at your own risk, but note they all ride lifted Pat's and had different wheels on...


Do not fit:

255/65/16 (Cyberpine) * they fit, but rub so badly on hard brakes that he had to have the store replace them.

Thanks:

To all the members cited above, for being kind enough to share their experience with the rest of us, so we know know what to do (or not to do) now. Thank you ‘all!
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You missed this one. It is a very rare size but they look great! Goodrich Long Trail T/A Tour in the P215/75R16. With the thinner tire, I see no difference in mileage (rolling resistance) and the first time you get in, the Patriot is noticeably taller from the road!
 
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Ramiroum said:
As promised I just posted a compilation of whatever I was able to find on 17" as a separate thread.

It seems like so far you may go safely up to 225/65/17 because although some members report no rubbing on 235/65/17, some other do; Particularly rear tires rubbing with the spring, requiring then to use spacers. (I guess it depends in the wheel backspacing), so if you decide to go that size, please review carefully the experience reported by each member that I cited in the compilation.

Some very brave kids went up to 245/65/17 but they all reported some rubbing.

Good Luck!
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Thanks... I'll head over there. You are mentioning basically what I have been seeing as well... mixed reviews on the 235's.
 
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Very good.

Just to add I also went with a 225/70/16 but in pro comps.

I went with this size because it stays within the largest stock daimeter of 28.5.

I do a lot of traveling so I wanted to stay at a modest diameter for gas mileage, but still have a the ability to take it offroad.
 
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Schoat333 said:
Very good.

Just to add I also went with a 225/70/16 but in pro comps.

I went with this size because it stays within the largest stock daimeter of 28.0.
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largest stock diameter is 28"
 
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So I have a question if I were to put a P215/70R16 on to my Patriot will get a sensor warning? Right now I have the P205/70R16 on it, but I need to change all 4 tires and don't want to go with the P205. Everywhere I go they tell me if I put the bigger tire on I will get either an ABS or TMPS senor. Can anyone confirm that putting one of the other tires on didn't screw up the computer?
 
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I wonder if anybody is else is running 295/50/16s on the Patriot? I've had them now for a good while and no issues. Absolutely no rubbing, they drive and look great on my custom rims. Do factor in rim width and backspacing as previously mentioned.

The only thing I've had is that the front brakes squeak a tiny bit at the end of braking. I don't think this is because of the wider tires, but I won't know until I change the brakes to better quality pads.

Nice post. Best of luck everybody.
 
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rjaskelton said:
So I have a question if I were to put a P215/70R16 on to my Patriot will get a sensor warning? Right now I have the P205/70R16 on it, but I need to change all 4 tires and don't want to go with the P205. Everywhere I go they tell me if I put the bigger tire on I will get either an ABS or TMPS senor. Can anyone confirm that putting one of the other tires on didn't screw up the computer?
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welcome!

no, you won't get any ABS or TPMS sensor problems so long as all of your tires are the same size. Don't forget to change your spare if you change the diameter of your tires.

Check out all the tire threads in this forum. Lot's of options for you.

28" is the maximum diameter of the stock "offroad" 215/65-17 wheels. Stay under that max dia, and you'll be fine.

The dealer can recalibrate your speedometer to a 28" tire size. If you don't do this, your speed and odo will be off.
 
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