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So, yeah, I'm in agreement that you probably won't find a CRD in the '08, but the fact that they have released a few of the '08 vehicle lineup and NOT the Patriot specs could mean something is on the horizon, whether it's a CRD or other engine offering.

As far as NOT needing a diesel in your daily driver, you'd be crazy to not WANT it. Daily driver implies you drive it quite a bit, wouldn't it make sense to benefit from the additional mileage; we're talking a 10+ MPG gain. And, chances are there's a diesel fueling station on your way to work that you could use to fill up.

I know there are many misconceptions about diesel (noisy, stinky) but all of this has or is changing. They [Jeep] has to do something though, along with the others, as there are new mileage standards going in place. Something has to offset the Hemi for a 35 MPG fleet Avg.

I too can't believe how behind Chrysler is on alternative technology, but the corporation is about to have new leadership, perhaps things will swing into place. I think offering the CRD in most of the Chrysler fleet would be a step in the right direction. Can't wait to see what happens!!!
 
I've road in a couple of rigs that were and are diesel. Had a friend who had a dodge that was diesel it was quiet. My father in-laws Ford power stroke, twin turbo, F-350, is it's quiet. I think with some that are loud, people have changed their tail pipe to make them really loud. (VRRRROOOOM).I don't notice the diesel smell coming from the rigs that are diesel, unless its an older one or your big rig on the highways. I personally don't know a lot about rigs and diesel. Like I said I have to be convinced. If we were to buy a vehicle thats diesel it won't be anytime soon. BUT back to hybrids. They should try at least. Look at the Prius. There are tons running around where I live. Honda and Ford have one but I don't see many out there. I'd like to see what they could come up with in design and style that it'd be as popular as the Prius.
 
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BUT back to hybrids. They should try at least. Look at the Prius. There are tons running around where I live. Honda and Ford have one but I don't see many out there. I'd like to see what they could come up with in design and style that it'd be as popular as the Prius.
You have lots of Prius in Northern Kalifornia (oops, I mean Oregon) due to all those granola crunchy folks from Kali movin' up into your state. ;)

I would never be caught dead in a Prius. I hate even saying the word Prius, it sounds so.....well, Pricky. ;)

What are folks gonna do with the heavy metal batteries on those things when they die? Someone is going to make some money recycling them I figure. How much does it cost to replace the battery and how long do they last?

One thing that sucks about hybrids (and most new cars in general) is that us backyard, weekend mechanics are not going to be able to work on them much anymore and we will become slaves to the service departments in the future. :notworthy:
 
As far as NOT needing a diesel in your daily driver, you'd be crazy to not WANT it. Daily driver implies you drive it quite a bit, wouldn't it make sense to benefit from the additional mileage; we're talking a 10+ MPG gain. And, chances are there's a diesel fueling station on your way to work that you could use to fill up.QUOTE]

Actually, there is NOT a diesel fueling station on my way to work. If I go a few miles out of my way, I could fuel up on the Indiana Toll Road--and pay extra for the priveledge. BTW, I drive nearly 50 miles to work. My 98 XJ has 249,300+ miles on the speedometer. It rivals some diesels.

There are an increasing number of E85 pumps showing up in Indiana. Remember, though, Indiana is one of the leaders in promoting E85 as an alternative fuel. We might be the number one state for ethanol production, with an increasing number of plants on the drawing board.
 
Well, Jeep is producing, in the US, the 2,0 Patriot diesel for the world market. The new 2,0 VW TDI is already 50 state approved. It would appear the major obstacle would be VW's permission to allow sale in NA in light of the VW's introduction of the Tiguan in 2008.

Diesel is often best purchased at truck stops as one typically does not have to worry about length of stay underground. Biodiesel (B20, 80, 100 etc) is also becoming more prevalent and, unlike ethanol, there is no penalty in fuel economy. Along with the enormous power avantages of diesel vs. gasoline engines, diesel vehicles are typically thirty percent more fuel efficient, hence you travel a lot further on a tankfull ... +650 miles on a tankful in a VW TDI or, more bluntly, four tanks to travel the width of the US. I'm really amazed that people still have trouble with the notion of the availability of diesel ... no diesel, then no trucking, no trains, no heating oil (diesel) for homes, etc.
 
Well, Jeep is producing, in the US, the 2,0 Patriot diesel for the world market. The new 2,0 VW TDI is already 50 state approved. It would appear the major obstacle would be VW's permission to allow sale in NA in light of the VW's introduction of the Tiguan in 2008.

Diesel is often best purchased at truck stops as one typically does not have to worry about length of stay underground. Biodiesel (B20, 80, 100 etc) is also becoming more prevalent and, unlike ethanol, there is no penalty in fuel economy. Along with the enormous power avantages of diesel vs. gasoline engines, diesel vehicles are typically thirty percent more fuel efficient, hence you travel a lot further on a tankfull ... +650 miles on a tankful in a VW TDI or, more bluntly, four tanks to travel the width of the US. I'm really amazed that people still have trouble with the notion of the availability of diesel ... no diesel, then no trucking, no trains, no heating oil (diesel) for homes, etc.
I googled the Tiguan on the intertubes to see what the fuss was about...

Damn that's an ugly car. It's like an old style Rabbit on steroids.
 
FYI every station here seems to have 1/3 of the pumps with a diesel option in Georgia. Another important factor is it is safe to fill and carry diesel fuel in 5 gallon Jerry Cans. Not so safe with gas. Have 3 Jerry cans and thats 350 miles of reserve. While the 2.0L VW diesel is ok it would be nicer to have a newer domestic design preferably of 2.5L size.
 
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