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Hello, just looking for some input from people who may have been in a similar situation before deciding on their vehicle. My husband and I need a new bigger vehicle. Right now we have a 6 year old and a dog but we plan on expanding our family next year. We go to visit his family a couple times a year and need cargo space that could possibly hold the dog and some of our things. I don't really like having the dog on the back seat especially if we will have a baby seat there too and there will be limited space.

So basically space is priority, my husband is fairly large at 6'4 240ish and since he was over 6 feet before his teens and my son is very tall for his age too I'm thinking he will need some leg room in back too in the coming years. The issue is, we set a budget and we agreed on wanting something simple. My requirement was having power windows and locks as our current is manual. I'm only 5'3, and though I'm flexible I can't be reaching all over to open windows and doors any more. Also my son likes to mess with the window knob. I love the more boxy design of the patriot, I do not like the look of the majority of new cars/suvs. My husband is all about new and I'm more retro or traditional when it comes to these things.

So he started going to look at cars and he's now changing his tune on what he wants, compartments, touchscreen on the dashboard, rear camera, sunroof... I try to keep him on track but he denies he's being swayed by these things. Initially I had to argue just for power windows and locks! I will admit, I have been sort of stuck on the Patriot from the beginning and even though some features on other cars have been better I do have a hard time getting past how much I love how the Patriot looks and the price. I justify this by the fact that I know in a couple years this car will be mostly used by me and he will probably get his dream car for his personal transportation.

Right now it seems as if the Patriot (my choice), Renegade, and Dodge Journey are front runners (finally got him to cut Kia Sportage). He's been going on about Renegade the most, it is pretty ugly to me and though I haven't seen it in person yet it seems small in the back seat and cargo area. He argues that there is storage underneath but that seems more useful for things that are going to be mostly staying in the car NOT for when we travel. He mentioned with the Journey the view is awkward looking past the hood, as far as seeing the back of the car in front of you. If that's a problem for him it's definitely a problem for me. We are no longer on the same page at all as he seems perfectly willing to sacrifice backseat and cargo space for a higher end interior and features. There have been a number of smaller vehicles he's talked about i've had to put my foot down on. How did you decide on the Patriot, or what made you decide against it? Anyone have to do some persuading with their not as practical partner?

Sorry for the rant, thanks for reading =)
 
I've not driven a Journey so I can't comment on that.

I bought my Patriot because I liked it better than the Avenger. I went from a Pontiac Grand Prix so I wanted something that didn't feel tiny and rode good. I'm bigger than you, but not as big as your husband, but I have no problems fitting in the Patriot.
  • I wasn't looking to buy a SUV/CUV but for the size it felt as big as a mid-sized vehicle.
  • Patriot has way more cargo space.
  • Fuel economy (with FWD) is excellent.
  • The Patriot rode better than the Avenger.
  • Don't know where you live, but even with FWD the Patriot is great in snow (didn't realize how important that was.)
I have driven a Renegade (had it a week for a loaner). I liked it more than I thought, but it does not ride nearly as good as the Patriot. The fuel economy is better than the Patriot. I doubt there is much back-seat room in it however. Suggestion: Have your husband get in the driver seat and adjust it till he's comfortable. Then have him go sit behind it and see how it feels. That way you'll know if the young'un will fit when he grows up (they grow up fast!)
 
I bought mine mostly because of how it looks and the price, and the gas economy of it.
I realized after I owned it how many more things I like about it such as the cargo room, the spaciousness of the driver's seat (I'm 6'2" and can wear a baseball cap any not touch the headliner. The Patriot can have pretty much all the features of other cars, navigation, remote start, seat warmers and such...but it's still a Jeep so don't expect it to ride like a sedan.
Oh yeah, the turning radius on it is awesome too!.
 
I think I went the other direction from most I have read about on this board. I went from. 2012 gecco green JKU(4dr) sport to a 2014 Patr.iot fd1 sport. I also have a 95 YJ and I liked the way it wheeled better than the JKU so I traded the JKU in for something with better gas mileage. Coincidently, my wife had a 2014 JKU Sahara model, fully loaded, heated leather seats, remote start, NA VI, and more. She was never going to wheel it so she traded it in for a 2015 Patriot fd1 high altitude with a sunroof, heated leather seats, and remote start. It is only missing the NAVI. She loves it.
 
Patriot was chosen for me because I needed a small, fuel efficient new vehicle for college, and my mom wanted it to be a 4x4. My dad and I went to the local Jeep dealer, and the only vehicles in price range were 2wd MKs, as everything there was loaded to the gills for some reason. Asked about a 4x4 for the price of one of the FWDs on the lot, and I got choice of Patriot or Compass. Went with Patriot due to XJ-type styling, and ended up with crank windows, manual mirrors/locks, basic stereo, no sunroof or cruise, and an autostick CVT. Wouldn't trade it for all the McLaren F1's ever made.
 
You will not regret going with the Patriot! I bought mine, because it really is the best of so many different worlds. It looks bad ass and rugged like a Jeep "should" look, almost like the older Cherokee (not a Star Trek shuttle craft like the RAV4 or the CRV), it gets great mileage, it drives smooth and feels just like driving a big car, and of course thanks to the boxy body styling, you get a really good amount of cargo space. Mine is a 2015 Altitude (which is basically a Sport but with the black rims and badges, against the black body mine has that sleek Knight Rider look), so no fancy interior amenities... no Nav, no bluetooth, no USB ports, but I really didn't care about any of that stuff. Between my Garmin and Google Maps, Maps and Wayze, who really needs a built in GPS anyway? It's pretty basic on the interior, but I love it. No fancy bells and whistles, just a great looking reliable car that has plenty of room all around, and doesn't break the bank on gas! When winters hit here in NYC, they can be pretty brutal so I can't wait to drive through some snow!
 
We have a silver with black rims Sport model (2014) Patriot and love it. It was less expensive than those jellybean shaped compact SUV's. I love the boxy shape (lots of practical cargo space).

Also, Chrysler/Jeep/Fiats are the only cars that offer a lifetime bumper to bumper service contract. For like $2,200. Repairs will only cost $100 per incident. This is after it gets out of the regular factory warranty.
 
It is not a station wagon

A dog in the back plus a baby, stroller, baby stuff, your stuff, his stuff, and a 6 year old? My opinion is the Patriot has insufficient cargo space. The Patriot Sport has a bad seat with no lumbar support. Otherwise it is a great commuter, good on long trips. 20 MPG City with A/C always on, 30 MPG Hwy. I recommend you get other opinions from moms. It is not as good or smooth as my last Buick Station Wagon. I bought it for the price. From what you shared in your post I predict you will trade it in before the warranty expires. In short, No. Choose wisely.
 
A dog in the back plus a baby, stroller, baby stuff, your stuff, his stuff, and a 6 year old? My opinion is the Patriot has insufficient cargo space. The Patriot Sport has a bad seat with no lumbar support. Otherwise it is a great commuter, good on long trips. 20 MPG City with A/C always on, 30 MPG Hwy. I recommend you get other opinions from moms. It is not as good or smooth as my last Buick Station Wagon. I bought it for the price. From what you shared in your post I predict you will trade it in before the warranty expires. In short, No. Choose wisely.
No, the Patriot is not a Buick. Nor does it cost as much. I've had a couple Buicks, including an Electra Wagon ($18,000 in 1986) and a Century Wagon (very similar in size to the Patriot and identical mpg). I paid $15,000 for my Patriot in 2008. I paid $14,900 for a 2014 Patriot last Spring. If Sassypants is planning on a couple little crumb-snatchers, she's probably on a budget. She should go with the Patriot!
 
Don't buy the Patriot

The dog is the problem. It needs space too. I don't think money is at issue, but if it is then it is better to buy the right car than be stuck with the wrong one and take a loss at trade-in.
The post indicates they know what they're doing, but perhaps should have requested replies from other moms only.
The Patriot is the wrong car for a family of five with two young children and a dog.
Hope it helps.
Chief
 
I tend to agree with elpayaso.

If you plan on having yourself, partner, six year old and another on the way or planning too, it doesn't leave much room for the barker in the back.

Unless you had a roof basket, or something to carry your baggage. I know if I were to take my dog in the car, it would be in the boot, with nothing much else in there with it!
 
Right now it seems as if the Patriot (my choice), Renegade, and Dodge Journey are front runners (finally got him to cut Kia Sportage). He's been going on about Renegade the most, it is pretty ugly to me and though I haven't seen it in person yet it seems small in the back seat and cargo area.

Don't even look at smaller vehicles.
Patriot and renegade are quite close in size, but for me Patriot is a sure choice. Despite new Renegade got a turboengine, it is ugly, you are right. And it's got less second seat legroom.
Never drove Jorney and Kia, so...
 
I decided to go with the 2016 Patriot because it was the cheapest SUV with a 4x4 system. My wife and I are renovating to sell our house next year and thinking of moving out further from the city of Toronto (We are 43 year old empty nesters lol). We were planning to just take one car to work when the time came and leave my Mustang home. Because of Canadian weather, it had to be a 4x4, and because we are considering about 100 kms from work, it had to fuel efficient... Also, because I had a '94 Grand Cherokee up until a few months ago, so it had to be a Jeep. Anyway, her car died 3 weeks ago so I ended up going to the Jeep dealership that's also my client. I started off looking at the Compass, but the Patriot got my attention better and the 4x4 system only came in 23G High Altitude Package. I liked the Patriot more and it looked like very much my old Jeep. Well, right now I am really happy with the Patriot and looking forward for snow.

With regards to the Renegade, it was more expensive once it has auto anything. But the look is something that did not appeal to me. Take a look below:

Jeep Renegade
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Kia Soul
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Not really my styling...
 
You said Space is the Priority

Hello Sassypants,
My final recommendation is you borrow a baby stroller and medium size carry on and your son's backpack then go to the dealer a put these items in the Patriot. The dog will use up about 1/3 of the cubic space, so it is going to be tight back there. Long trips will require access to the dog and baby stuff.
I honestly think the Patriot is too small for your family.
I don't think the Jeep engineers thought about you in designing the wheel wells mounds to use up so much valuable space.
Have a happy and safe Holiday.
Choose wisely.
 
Hello Sassypants,
My final recommendation is you borrow a baby stroller and medium size carry on and your son's backpack then go to the dealer a put these items in the Patriot. The dog will use up about 1/3 of the cubic space, so it is going to be tight back there. Long trips will require access to the dog and baby stuff.
I honestly think the Patriot is too small for your family.
I don't think the Jeep engineers thought about you in designing the wheel wells mounds to use up so much valuable space.
Have a happy and safe Holiday.
Choose wisely.
That is why mini-vans are so popular, but they aren't nearly as much fun.

And elpayaso's suggestion is a good one. When I was on the road I frequently carried product that came in consistently-sized cases. I took a couple out of my present vehicle and did a test fit in the new one before I bought it. In my case, they fit. :)

For most people a new vehicle is a good chunk of a year's pay. Choose carefully, and whatever you do, don't fall for the 'buy now and save' line -- don't get something on the spur of the moment and be sorry for the next 5 years. Don't under-buy, but don't over-buy either. Bigger vehicles won't get as good fuel economy and they'll cost more. You may find yourself in a situation where a vehicle will fit for a few years, but you'll outgrow it. Trading in for something bigger is usually the best way to get the most for your trade if/when you trade. For our family, all we have to fit are Wifey & me (and rarely the cat) so a Patriot is perfect choice, and we have a Wrangler that does the hard work (deep snow, pulling the trailer, etc.); that will last forever because it hardly gets used -- just enough to keep it in shape.
 
Hello Sassypants,
My final recommendation is you borrow a baby stroller and medium size carry on and your son's backpack then go to the dealer a put these items in the Patriot. The dog will use up about 1/3 of the cubic space, so it is going to be tight back there. Long trips will require access to the dog and baby stuff.
I honestly think the Patriot is too small for your family.
I don't think the Jeep engineers thought about you in designing the wheel wells mounds to use up so much valuable space.
Have a happy and safe Holiday.
Choose wisely.
Yeah a Patriot is not really the biggest of vehicles, but it does have a roof rack for one of those cargo carriers if the need arises.

If space is a concern, I'd recommend a Dodge Caravan American Value Package or the Chrysler Town N Country equivalent. They are about $19k I think, so just a couple grand more than a Sport Patriot.
 
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