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First off, Discounts are pretty good right now. so if you really shop it, you might find a NEW patriot 4x4 for that price. I know some people have gotten 2wd's for much less.
If you go used, you are in the salt belt, look for rust. Buy as new and as maintained as you can. Records are everything, if you find a car where somebody has documented every oil change, you probably have a really good buy on your hands. Ball joints on most Chrysler are suspect, patriot is no different. so if its got more than 25K miles on it check those. Check for any frame/body damage, or repair - a trusted mechanic is excellent for this. worth it to pay them a small fee to check out any car you might be interested in.
If you go used, you are in the salt belt, look for rust. Buy as new and as maintained as you can. Records are everything, if you find a car where somebody has documented every oil change, you probably have a really good buy on your hands. Ball joints on most Chrysler are suspect, patriot is no different. so if its got more than 25K miles on it check those. Check for any frame/body damage, or repair - a trusted mechanic is excellent for this. worth it to pay them a small fee to check out any car you might be interested in.
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This, plus a couple other things. Some rant about how they hate the CVT, but it's more of a matter of learning how to use it. The 5-spd is nice, but a very few have had clutch issues of some sort. The 6-spd might work, but they had no reason to introduce it the way they did. Also, different people have had different experiences with fuel economy. A few get a bad experience with a 2wd or FD1 and only get 15-23mpg, but most can get 25-29mpg. If you wanna wheel it, probably a better idea to look for a FD2, but don't expect more than a 23-25mpg average. Might also wanna be wary of the earliest models, they were known for sunroof leaks. Mine has no sunroof, but does get a very slight leak(barely a trickle) down the rear window, and that only during heavy rains.
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Okay, so I paid $23K for mine, but I bought mine brand new, and made absolutely sure it had the 2.4L and the 6 speed auto. I only have FWD, so I can't give you any info as to the fuel economy of the 4x4 models, but my setup is averaging about 24.2 MPG, and that is factoring in changing my wheels and tires to a wider footprint. I love my Patriot with the exception of one thing: no telescoping steering wheel on my model, just tilt.
As far as what to look for, everyone else hit the nail on the head.
As far as what to look for, everyone else hit the nail on the head.
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I'm with Mikos.
With that nice down payment, if you have any credit at all you should be able to swing a new 4X4 with ease.
Now get shopping.......
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Absolutely, buy new: 2.4L 4x4 - as a fellow Central New Yorker, this combination is unstoppable. There's simply no reason not to buy new for all the reasons above. You will not regret it.
FYI, my wife and I had, and continue to have, an outstanding relationship with Lowery Brothers Chrysler Jeep 647 West Genesee Street, Syracuse (just west of center city). We both bought 2014 Jeep Patriots, her an FDI Latitude and me an FDII Latitude special order. Excellent sales and service crew there.
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If you want to finance around $10k then you will be hard pressed to get new from what I saw in the Syracuse area. After discounts they were still running $20k. So you would be financing $15k which is over your budget. Some dealers might give another $1k but that still wouldn't help you. Just doing a search centered on Syracuse + 250 miles out here is what I saw.
2014 Patriot 4x4 Latitude
Only 3k miles @ $17k... right at the top of your budget.
2013 Patriot Sport 4x4
15k miles @ $14k .. prob the best overall fit for mileage and price considering its 2 years old, under the avg mileage, and definitely in your budget after down payment. ***Manual stick*** Heck you could put $1k - $2k less down if you wanted and still have a small payment. On avg for every $1k its $20 more/less on the payment.
2014 Patriot Sport 4x4
18k @ $15k .. Pretty good fit as well for price and mileage. Puts you right solid in your budget. This is an automatic if you do not want stick.
There were a few lower in price but higher mileage. The comparision IMO is that they were not worth it when you could get one of the ones I listed for about the same price.
2014 Patriot 4x4 Latitude
Only 3k miles @ $17k... right at the top of your budget.
2013 Patriot Sport 4x4
15k miles @ $14k .. prob the best overall fit for mileage and price considering its 2 years old, under the avg mileage, and definitely in your budget after down payment. ***Manual stick*** Heck you could put $1k - $2k less down if you wanted and still have a small payment. On avg for every $1k its $20 more/less on the payment.
2014 Patriot Sport 4x4
18k @ $15k .. Pretty good fit as well for price and mileage. Puts you right solid in your budget. This is an automatic if you do not want stick.
There were a few lower in price but higher mileage. The comparision IMO is that they were not worth it when you could get one of the ones I listed for about the same price.
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Hope rebates are active. 3000.00 one out check it out. AWD is great in winter not much beats it.
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NP! Too bad this wasnt a couple months ago when they had upwards of $6k in discounts. They still have $4k in some places on some vehicles. Here in AZ there are still some new 2015s with $5k off like this one:Wow, thanks for that mana real help!
Reall liking the black one at 15K. Gonna give them a call.
http://www.billluke.com/new/Jeep/2015-Jeep-Patriot-Phoenix-9dd6929c0a0a00de08042f19fc6437d0.htm
Keep an eye out as there could be others there.. Keep in mind that when buying new they will try and sell you gap insurance and extended warranties which jacks up the price. I got my Pat in Feb. It was going to be a $455 payment but they tried to sell me on warranties and gap shooting the payment $150 more. I made the rework it and going it down to only an extra $30. The warranty is good.. just have to haggle to get that down. You can get gap insurance through most auto insurance providers now for a fraction of what you would get from the dealer. I like Bill Luke because they are a volume dealer. So their profit comes from moving large numbers of vehicles rather than squeezing each vehicle for every penny. If you are down for a cross country trip they will reimburse you for your flight in if you purchase from them.
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Nicholas, what are you going to do with the Land Rover?
No problems except that dealers like to sell you an extended warranty to pad their bottom line. First dealer I went to tried to do this to me and I said no. They insisted and told me that if I didn't get the extended warranty, they would under no terms sell me the vehicle for the net price advertised in their newspaper ad. I walked out.
The second dealer had one listed for $13K net price in their ad which came out to $14.2K out the door. No extended warranty gimmicks or sneaky last minute con games to sour the deal. So, I purchased it.
The Patriot I bought has the power value group which is a good value option. You get power windows, power door locks, body color door handles and a body color license plate eyebrow trim molding. A lot of the low price ad specials don't have it, so be aware. If you can, try to get one that has the power value group option if you're looking for the base model Sport .
It seems it doesn't matter to the dealers around here because I have seen both low priced ad special Patriots that have it and some that don't have it. This leads me to believe the dealers around here get a holdback for that particular option so it doesn't matter which ones have it when they pick out a particular Patriot for their low price ad specials.
Of course, this could be a regional thing and not available in other markets.
Wifey & I just bought a used 2014 with the 5-spd manual. All around nice tranny, but it dues chatter when I ride the clutch in reverse, e.g. starting up on a hill in reverse. That said I once had a Ford and the clutch chattered far worse and went on that way for years without a problem. The Jeep 5-speed is smooth shifting and in 4th gear the 2.0 will get me over most hills at highway speeds.
As for Nick's original post, my 2008 Patriot has 178,000 miles and has had none of the front-end problems or leaks others have reported. I liked it enough to buy the 2014.
As for winter driving, I don't know what kind of roads you travel, but both our Patriots are FWD and can handle some pretty outrageous snow with good snow tires (the OEM tires are not very good in snow). Most of our driving is done on highways, but the first few miles are on a town road that isn't plowed between 11PM-5AM and we leave for work at 4AM. We always get out and we always get home. It gives me great pleasure to work my way around other vehicles that can't make a hill!
In our area everybody seems to want 4wd so FWD Patriots are often offered as a loss leader at a bargain price if you can find one.
I have no mechanical problems with mine. After all, it only has 800 miles on it. However, I do get a loud squeak sometimes when backing up and the shifter can be a little notchy at times.
Probably have to go check the parking brake cable bracket and the oil level in the transmission. Oh, and I already fixed the bouncing hood problem. One down and two more to go.
Probably have to go check the parking brake cable bracket and the oil level in the transmission. Oh, and I already fixed the bouncing hood problem. One down and two more to go.
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Nice!!! Good times a-coming!!
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