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#141 ·
Discount Tire said:
Awesome! Thank you for your business Robby! Make sure you share a few photos with us here once everything is bolted up :smiley_thumbs_up: Like The4WDPatriot noted, no spacers are required!
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Have y'all tried 235/70 16 tires on stock wheels and on a stock 2011 or newer pat do they rub?
 
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#146 ·
the_jeep_now said:
Yes, they will rub. You would need either spacers or lower offset rims.

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Ok thanks wonder how that one guy got away with it I posted a link above . Guess it will be an RRO Lift or 225/70s next go around
 
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rick979tx said:
Have y'all tried 235/70 16 tires on stock wheels and on a stock 2011 or newer pat do they rub?
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No, we have not test fit this set-up.

235/70R-16's are on the aggressive side though. I've seen some members run this size on all stock applications without issue while others do have issues. If you're interested in this size I would mount 1 tire up to see how it fits.
 
#149 ·
my bad i forgot about this thread... my bad haha im still waiting on my lift to get here. but i managed to stuff the 235/75r15s under my riot with no problem also very very slight rubbing i havnt even noticed, only seen the scuff on the fender well. also hammered in the pinch weld. but here she sits
 

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#151 ·
discount_tire:


so i want more sidewall for forest road trails but want to maintain same or slightly smaller diameter and same or less tire and wheel weight.

I currently have the oem 17" 215/65/R17 tires.

I *think* a tire of size 215/75/R15 would get me what I am looking for.

I also think the wrangler SRA tire in that size would be my choice as the stockers I have now are the SRAs and they work great in all conditions.

I also saw the grabbers AT2 which look nice and are a few pounds heavier- which I can make up with lighter 15" wheels....but I am not sure about their performance on snow......which is a little important to me about 3 times a year.

As far as wheels, I don't want to mess with having issues with wheel bearings or anything like that when it comes to spacers/offsets or whatever- excuse my ignorance please if I am wrong.

What would my choices be for the 15" wheels to not mess with the mechanical parts such as wheel bearings?

thanks!
 
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silverflash said:
discount_tire:

so i want more sidewall for forest road trails but want to maintain same or slightly smaller diameter and same or less tire and wheel weight.

I currently have the oem 17" 215/65/R17 tires.

I *think* a tire of size 215/75/R15 would get me what I am looking for.

I also think the wrangler SRA tire in that size would be my choice as the stockers I have now are the SRAs and they work great in all conditions.

I also saw the grabbers AT2 which look nice and are a few pounds heavier- which I can make up with lighter 15" wheels....but I am not sure about their performance on snow......which is a little important to me about 3 times a year.

As far as wheels, I don't want to mess with having issues with wheel bearings or anything like that when it comes to spacers/offsets or whatever- excuse my ignorance please if I am wrong.

What would my choices be for the 15" wheels to not mess with the mechanical parts such as wheel bearings?

thanks!
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Thanks for the post.

I'd recommend looking at the MB TKO or the MB Chaos 5 in 15". These are both aluminum alloys, they fit without wheel spacers and they will also work with a 215/75R15 or 225/75R15 if you want a slightly larger tire. The 215/75R15 you are considering is about 1/3" shorter than the 215/65R17 you are running now.

For tires, the General Grabber AT would be a great choice for year round use. These tires do really well in winter conditions, they ride smooth on the highway and they have a 60K warranty as well.

As far as effects on wheel bearings go, I haven't seen any factual tests or data that says wheels with lower offsets cause wheel bearing issues or faster wear. I'm not saying that they could or couldn't cause it but if your vehicle is having issues with wheel bearings there could be a lot of other factors that caused the problem with or without lower offset wheels.

Its really up to you though, If you decide you want a wheel and tire that will fit closer to the factory specs jump up to a 16" wheel and tire combo, there's plenty of wheels in 16" with higher offsets that can give you that.
 
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i only chose the 15" because i wanted to avoid getting a larger tire circumference versus stock.

why?

because i don't want to lose power/torque when off road at lower speeds.

My thoughts are that a larger circumference will decrease low end torque like when climbing a steep hill.

Is that true?

I know I could lose a few pounds if I go with smaller diameter wheels sticking with same circumference tire and maybe that would add more low end torque? maybe I am saying it wrong but I want to be able to go up hills the same or easier because right now the hill in question is barely doable with the power i have in 1st gear-stick- due to the road conditions.

the 16" options seem to not have anything slightly smaller or same as stock 17" wheel/tire combo so that's one reason i am thinking 15". Another is to get more sidewall for off road situations that i find myself in- large creek gravel roads, alittle bumpy, and steep. Should be a smoother ride? How would highway driving and cornering be affected?

Re the mountain road, I have to go up in 1st gear- am a stick- and i go up a little faster than i want to and it's a bumpy ride. Don't want to burn the clutch at al!!

so after all that discount_tire, thoughts?

would a 16" slightly larger circumference BUT lighter wheels so the whole assembly is lighter be better/same or worse than stock in terms of what i am looking for?
 
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silverflash said:
i only chose the 15" because i wanted to avoid getting a larger tire circumference versus stock.

why?

because i don't want to lose power/torque when off road at lower speeds.

My thoughts are that a larger circumference will decrease low end torque like when climbing a steep hill.

Is that true?

I know I could lose a few pounds if I go with smaller diameter wheels sticking with same circumference tire and maybe that would add more low end torque? maybe I am saying it wrong but I want to be able to go up hills the same or easier because right now the hill in question is barely doable with the power i have in 1st gear-stick- due to the road conditions.

the 16" options seem to not have anything slightly smaller or same as stock 17" wheel/tire combo so that's one reason i am thinking 15". Another is to get more sidewall for off road situations that i find myself in- large creek gravel roads, alittle bumpy, and steep. Should be a smoother ride? How would highway driving and cornering be affected?

Re the mountain road, I have to go up in 1st gear- am a stick- and i go up a little faster than i want to and it's a bumpy ride. Don't want to burn the clutch at al!!

so after all that discount_tire, thoughts?

would a 16" slightly larger circumference BUT lighter wheels so the whole assembly is lighter be better/same or worse than stock in terms of what i am looking for?
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Yes, a slightly smaller and lighter tire will help with low end torque. Although both could improve things for you, the best improvement may come with a 15" aluminum wheel and 215/75R15 tires.
 
#156 ·
Twatlol said:
So 30 inch is the max size for the Pat? I was hopping to squeeze in a 33inch with a lift and wheel spacers
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The 30" tires they tested already needed modification in order to clear. If you made really wanted 33s you'd have to cut into the quarter panels in order to be able to turn or flex as well as the normal modification shown in the thread.

Please take the time to read the thread, it has already been answered.

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#157 ·
Creation said:
The 30" tires they tested already needed modification in order to clear. If you made really wanted 33s you'd have to cut into the quarter panels in order to be able to turn or flex as well as the normal modification shown in the thread.

Please take the time to read the thread, it has already been answered.

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Sorry I was at work I plan on rolling the fenders anyway was just making conversation I guess


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#158 ·
Twatlol said:
So 30 inch is the max size for the Pat? I was hopping to squeeze in a 33inch with a lift and wheel spacers
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If it's a beater Pat and you wanted to cut out the unibody and fender... Maybe. And only with a FDII, or you'll probably have problems moving at all due to lack of torque. Long expensive story short stay with 30's and a lift and you have 12+" ground clearance.
 
#159 ·
rcguymike said:
If it's a beater Pat and you wanted to cut out the unibody and fender... Maybe. And only with a FDII, or you'll probably have problems moving at all due to lack of torque. Long expensive story short stay with 30's and a lift and you have 12+" ground clearance.
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Dam 33inch starts to hurt the truck I didn't think it was this limited to be honest oh well I'll make it work lol no engine swap that's where I draw the line thanks



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