to retain the lifetime warranty get a dealer to do it, the fluid is expensive and you need special tools aswell, this is one job that is a dealership must do

 

I had thought the fluid and filter needed to be changed at 36000 miles but I looked again and it says 60k. Should I really wait that long?

 

60k is the sever service interval, the "regular service" interval is 120k miles. The fluid costs in excess of $20 a quart and it will take 8-9 quarts.

From looking at the service manual the actual process is just like any other automatic. Drop the pan, change the filter, install new pan gasket and refill. It is the refilling that is the rub- there is not a dipstick for the transmission- instead a special tool (essentially a graduated wire cable with a handle) is used, the temperature of the fluid is measured and then a table in the service manual is consulted that tells at what mark on the tool the fluid should be at.

Me, I plan to have a dealership take care of this service when the time comes.

 

i agree, i had mine done but i do extreme traveling, best left to dealers as not worth the possible grief doing it youre self

 

You can use the oil dipstick. When I first brought my Pat home, I noticed no trans dipstick. So I pulled the oil dip stick, wiped it clean then inserted it fully into the CVT fill/check tube. The oil level read at the one quart low mark on the oil dip stick. Doesn't tell me if it's full or low or anything, but at least I know it's at the same level as it was delivered to me.

 

At what temperature did you perform this test. I have 2009 and my oil dipstick seems to be too short to reach the bottom of the transmission pan. I am assuming you did this when the engine completely cold.

 

Now that man deserves a whole hearted job well done and a golf clap. Daaaaaaamn, why didn't I think of that! Good work Todd.
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My HHR has no dipstick. Not even a place to stick the oil dipstick. The manual says the only way fluid can escape is thru a leak. Nothing on the ground? You ain't got a leak. Don't worry about it. But the dealer couldn't tell me how he knew the fluid was OK on delivery. Good test for a quick oil change place's honesty. Ask how the trans fluid level was.

 

The CVT Trans is not a User Servicable part!! It is basically a sealed for life Unit. The fluid level is checkable , using special Depth/Temp euipment , by the dealer. The special fluid, whitch contains rubber granuels for belt adhesion, has its fist Check & change at 60.000 miles.As this system works under amazingly high pressure to actuate the belt/pully system. Its not a system I would attempt to do myself!!

 

So has anyone hit the 60k mark yet, i wanna know how much the fluid change is gonna cost. And has anybody changed the fluid in your diffs yet. How involved is that if so. I have looked a t them and afraid it may be a dealer service as well

 

Changing the differential fluid is easy (it takes standard gear oil) and most independent garages can do it quickly and cheaply. I can't remember what my mechanic charged but it was pretty nominal.

I have about 80,000 miles and am waiting until somewhere between 100,000 - 120,000 miles to change the CVT fluid. I called several dealers and they want between $250 - $300 to change it (it goes for $18/quart).

I have the Lifetime Warranty and am operating under the normal maintenance schedule. If anything happens, I'm hoping that my local dealer will have my back in terms of warranty claims -- I've bought several cars from them and given them several thousand of dollars in maintenance.

 

CVT fluid change

I was told $250 for trans fluid change. The same dealer said they would sell me the mopar trans fluid at a discounted price of $18 per quart since they had lost their Jeep dealership because of the bankruptcy and reorganization of Chrysler.

 

Check out miller tools 9336A thats what i have. I'm going to do my cvt service at 100000 kms.

 

I've heard you can get Nissan CVT fluid for the Rogue for $15 a quart at the Nissan dealer. That might save a little money over the Chrysler stuff considering Nissan owns the company that made the transmission.

 

Napa has the dipstick 605-1677 @ under $25. It comes with a chart as the fluid level is temp dependent. They also have the filter and gasket NAPA Part #1-5510. It is straight forward transmission filter change, be sure to wipe out pan and clean the 2 magnets thoroughly. Valvoline makes a Full synthetic CVT fluid that is CVTF4 chrysler compatible. Part #804751. I recommend changing before 100K miles as it already dirty (very black) by then and then every 50K miles as much fluid remains in trans during drain. The owners manual recommends 60K for severe duty and 120K miles normal service. This applies to 2007-2011 Patriot with CVT transmission. The fluid required will depend on how hot trans was when drained and how long it drained. Most require under 7qts but I would have a 8th around just in case. Add 5qts and then check, add, check until in middle of zone. Any dipstick that touches the bottom will also do as it is measured in millimeters and one could scribe the back of the oil dipstick so you always have it with you. Measured from bottom of stick 32mm works from 50F to 170 F. It would be the high mark @ 50F and the low @ 170F. 28mm to 36mm works from 70F to 125F trans fluid temp with low for 70F and high for 125F. I posted more details here: What brand CVTF+4 Transmission Fluid CAN you use in...

 

Update, as a aircraft mechanic and former ASE certified mechanic I will tell you everything above is typical internet garbage from those who post nonsense about things they do not understand. Napa has the dipstick 605-1677 @ under $25. It comes with a chart as the fluid level is temp dependent. They also have the filter and gasket NAPA Part #1-5510. It is straight forward transmission filter change, be sure to wipe out pan and clean the 2 magnets thoroughly. Valvoline makes a Full synthetic CVT fluid that is CVTF4 chrysler compatible. Part #804751. I recommend changing before 100K miles as it already dirty (very black) by then and then every 50K miles as much fluid remains in trans during drain. The owners manual recommends 60K for severe duty and 120K miles normal service. This applies to 2007-2011 Patriot with CVT transmission. The fluid required will depend on how hot trans was when drained and how long it drained. Most require under 7qts but I would have a 8th around just in case. Add 5qts and then check, add, check until in middle of zone. Any dipstick that touches the bottom will also do as it is measured in millimeters and one could scribe the back of the oil dipstick so you always have it with you. Measured from bottom of stick 32mm works from 50F to 170 F. It would be the high mark @ 50F and the low @ 170F. 28mm to 36mm works from 70F to 125F trans fluid temp with low for 70F and high for 125F. I posted a more details on another post here. Use search.

All well and good...however for those of us with lifetime warranties, it makes sense to take it to dealer--it's about $400, then you know there will be no problem with warranty coverage. I too, am a former A & P, so I know high-tech mechanical devices--ever rebuild a prop governor?--but somethings are just too iffy to try and save a few buck on, in my humble opinion...

 

Thanks

Scrolling through to get some questions answered, really appreciate all the helpful hints. Thanks Pheasant Pete and Todd. Jim Lefeber

 

Keep in mind that from my experience the dealers will do a CVT fluid check at no cost. I took mine in right after I bought it a few years ago and they verified the fluid level and condition were good and didn't charge me to do it.


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The manual says you need to change at 60k if using your vehicle for police, taxi, fleet or frequent trailer towing. I do not do any of those things. At 77k I had my transmission replaced so new fluid and filter were done then. I now have 125k on my engine = to 50k miles on transmission. If the fluid checked out good at a dealer I should not have to change the fluid since it is a fully contained system. What do you think? The manual only goes to 150k and there is only recommendations for manual transmissions.

 

My Patriot owners manuals say change at 120k under normal conditions, 60k under extreme conditions.
Many have followed that and had no problems.

I have 28k on my 2012, but I plan to change mine (do it myself) at 50k intervals. My wife has a Nissan Rogue with the exact same transmission. Hers calls for 50k changes so I'll do that with my Patriot also.
A small price to pay for a chance to help extend the life of the CVT.

 

I personally recommend a fluid and filter change every 60K regardless of how your vehicle is driven. I changed my fluid and filter for the first time at around 87K and it was dirty. After I did the change, the CVT shifts better and is quieter. My MPG's also jumped up to 27-28 as well.

In a couple of months, I'm going to do another fluid and filter change, this time I'll put a pan back on that has a drain plug so I can drain and refill the fluid every other year (I put on about 20K year). I'll do a fluid and filter change every other year also. I use the Valvoline CVT fluid so the entire cost to me for the fluid, filter and gasket was around $100

 

Yes, I saw that pan with the drain plug online for about 40 bucks. I'm getting that and ordering a case of Valvoline cvt fluid (6 quarts) from Amazon for under $9 a quart.

 

I know this in 208,000 miles never serviced my cvt on my 07 and never had an issue

 

2011 Jeep patriot DIY CVT Change

My 2011 Jeep Patriot transmission started overheating off/on since 75,000 miles. At 80,000 miles it started the high-pitch whine. After reading the threads on here, I decided to change the transmission oil myself. I used Valvoline CVT fluid and now it shifts better and the whine is gone. So far, I've driven it 300 miles in 100+ weather and it's still running well. I just used a meat thermometer on the transmission pan to accurately check the CVT fluid. Great advice on this thread! Thanks!

 

My 2011 Jeep Patriot transmission started overheating off/on since 75,000 miles. At 80,000 miles it started the high-pitch whine. After reading the threads on here, I decided to change the transmission oil myself. I used Valvoline CVT fluid and now it shifts better and the whine is gone. So far, I've driven it 300 miles in 100+ weather and it's still running well. I just used a meat thermometer on the transmission pan to accurately check the CVT fluid. Great advice on this thread! Thanks!

Welcome Tia Lia! Please hop on over to the Newbie forum and introduce yourself.

 

Okay I talked with the dealer I bought this out and according to the guy in the department

he says the flush the fluid and out new fluid in, but do not replace the filter .

do I need a new filter?


also the dealership would let me buy cvt fluid and charge like 104 plus tax so like 115, and would let me buy the fluid

 

Okay I talked with the dealer I bought this out and according to the guy in the department

he says the flush the fluid and out new fluid in, but do not replace the filter .

do I need a new filter?

also the dealership would let me buy cvt fluid and charge like 104 plus tax so like 115, and would let me buy the fluid

I'd call that weird. Why wouldn't they want to do that? Especially as long as they're already in there. I had a tranny leak a few months ago and it was covered under the lifetime warranty, but my dealer offered to do the filter since they were already in there. FCA paid the lion's share of it, and I only paid the filter -- don't recall but it seems it was less than $50. I was getting something else done, maybe brakes or an oil change. I do forget.

 

Man, I don't understand why these shops won't change those filters, they're really not that scary.

Heck, several people here have done them, and not all of us are professional mechanics.

The pan strainer filter is easy. 3 more bolts to remove it once you have the pan off. Piece of cake.

The filter under the aux cooler/ex changer is more work, since you have to take the battery and battery tray out, then remove 4 bolts to take the aux cooler/ex-changer off to get to the filter. The two bolts on the back can be a challenge, but totally doable with a little time and resolve. In my case, it would have been a waste of a fluid change not to change this filter since it was really dirty and didn't pass air through very well.

Here's a pic of the old and new filters:

 

Yeah well i called and talk to a guy I know at the dealership i bought it at. and read him your post Sandstorm about taking the battery and battery tray out, removing the four bolts to take thw aux coller/ex-changer off to get to the filter. I read him everything. He went back put me on hold and checked

He said they could do it and would costs 90 mins worth of labor which is 156 plus the filter and fluid, which Im going to try and buy. So me explaining this to him helped out. Thank you Sandstorm

 

You're welcome John, glad it helped!

Also, I don't know if it will matter, but I found that I had enough room to get the Aux cooler filter out without disconnecting either the radiator coolant lines or the lines out to the external cooler core from the top of the aux cooler. Hopefully they won't need to disconnect them either and that will save some time.

Let us know how it works out.

PS. Oh yea, one more thing. It's totally up to you but consider having the shop install a trans pan with a drain plug. Makes the next fluid change a whole lot easier. There's no extra work involved for the shop other than transferring the two ring magnets from the bottom of the old pan to the bottom of the new one.

 

2014 Jeep Patriot 2 wd transmission flush.

I just did a transmission flush on a 2014 2.0 Automatic Jeep Patriot 2wd, and found out it had no dipstick. I measured the fluid that drained out and put the same amount of fresh oil (do not change the filter just yet)and flushed it again after it was driven in a certain amount of miles. Not satisfied with the level I went to ask my old buddies at the shop for fluid specifications because it is not in the manual or at their official website, and the shop has a dipstick they use for this type. They got the dipstick from Napa for this type of vehicle.

 

"The filter under the aux cooler/ex changer is more work, since you have to take the battery and battery tray out, then remove 4 bolts to take the aux cooler/ex-changer off to get to the filter. The two bolts on the back can be a challenge, but totally doable with a little time and resolve."

Really?

The cooler filter for the CVT transmission is located UNDER the battery?

. . . and the battery needs to be removed to exchange it?

It can't be replaced from another path?

 

The cooler filter for the CVT transmission is located UNDER the battery?

its not a normal service item
so not suprising