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Yesterday at the Stealership

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#1 ·
Yesterday I went to go have my Patriot's oil changed at the dealership where I bought my Patriot. I've always had good things to say about that place. They always took care of my Patriot and gave me a great deal on it when I bought it. There was a long line of cars waiting to get their oil changed so I went and browsed the vehicles for sale. I've been looking at a Liberty just to see if it'd be something I'd be interested in. I found a used one for a pretty good price same color as my Patriot. I spoke with a sales rep and found out it had one owner in the area and was very well taken care of. It had little to no wear or tear for being a used vehicle. I took it out for a test ride and actually liked it. The ride is more like a truck than the Patriot. It drove and handled like I hoped it would. When we got back to the dealership. I had them run me some numbers to see what my trade in value would be for my Patriot against the Liberty. After waiting around for the numbers they came back with an offer. Their "offer" was 11k for my Patriot! I told them that was absolutely ridiculous and there was no way for it to be worth that little. My Patriot is a 2010 Latitude with most of the bells and whistles that came on the Patriot at that time. They went back and looked at the numbers and said they could possibly come around 12k but they weren't sure. They asked for me to take the Liberty home and let them make some calls about my Patriot. I decided against that and left with my Patriot. Later on that day the sales rep calls me and said since the Liberty had been sitting for over 30 days they would be aggressive for me to buy it. I told him they should've made the best offer when I was there and not wait around for me to leave.

Well I really don't want to sell my Patriot especially with gas going up as it is. I just figured since i'm young and I don't have any major bills I could afford to pay for the extra gas. Well I know im ranting but I have to vent haha..
 
#2 ·
One of the very best decisions you will ever make.

Chrysler has this whole spin and win promo going on and it all involves trading your older Jeep in and buying a new one and a chance to win some money.

But the thing is it is simply churning...there is a continent wide shortage of good used vehicles because of the scrap programs and the blow up of leasing in 2008 so they will have no problem selling your trade somewhere and any money you bring, borrow or lease is new money so they all get a piece of that.

sell a new vehicle, sell a good used vehicle, new commissions from all the above plus the kick back from whoever finances you and who ends up paying?

You do.

Congrats on walking away.
 
#5 ·
if you like it... buy it. that is one of the few things i really don't like about the patriot is the gas mileage, I never cared about fuel economy in the least and it drives me nuts not to have to put $60-70.00 in it every 150-200 miles. also wish it had a V6. not a big fan of 4 cylinders. actually looking at a chevrolet suburban for a second vehicle and it has a 7.4 454 V8.
 
#7 · (Edited)
...that is one of the few things i really don't like about the patriot is the gas mileage, I never cared about fuel economy in the least and it drives me nuts not to have to put $60-70.00 in it every 150-200 miles...
You don't like the Patriot's gas mileage because you are used to spending more?? Am I reading this right? I've never heard of someone being frustrated because they wanted to spend more money. Maybe every time you fill up you can take the extra $40 you would have spent on gas and put it in a jar... then buy decent tires and a lift and a hail guard on the roof. Or if you would rather throw it away, I'll set up a PayPal account you can just send it to :D I'll gladly take it off your hands
 
#6 · (Edited)
You think that the bad fuel economy will not bother you, think again. That happy marriage between you and that Liberty would of ended in a biter divorce. I have the Dodge Ram 1500 with the Hemi 5.7, and if I really baby it I get around 17 to 18 mpg but if I drive it regular I get around 12 to 13. I fill up twice a week, my first fill was 103.00 my second fill was 109.00 and I was going to fill her up a third time but refused and ended up taking the Patriot to work. In the beginning it will not bother you but shortly there after it starts to get annoying, especially when you start to think of all that extra money going to gas. I know the Liberty is not the gas guzzler the ram is but, the way gas is going up coupled with the problems in the Middle East you will be paying what I am paying to fill your Liberty. If I am not mistaken the Liberty get's 16 city and 20 highway. You made the right decision, trust me.
 
#8 ·
Good decision. I think if you just stay away from the floor room and/or the sales department, you'll be that much safer in keeping your Patriot. Think about why you bought your Pat in the first place. I know I try to stay away from the floor room whenever I visit the dealer for a service because I know I'll be tempted to buy that new Wrangler :D but in the end I enjoy my Patriot every time I drive it.
 
#11 ·
Yeah i am happy I didn't do it. I am actually really happy with my Patriot and it would be a waste of money to get a Liberty.. I am going to just save what I would've spent and put it on my Patriot. In the hopes that I can get it to look half as good as The_Jeep_now's haha.

Just installed the k&n. filter and that was a pain! Ive never had that much trouble installing it in my previous vehicles. Next up ill get some roof rails.

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#16 ·
the other issue with fuel effecient vehicles is that they emit less pollution, which in turn means less revenue for me.... the more pollution namely hydrocarbons in the atmosphere helps to cause more violent weather and longer lasting tornadoes. I chase tornadoes video tape them and sell the dvds. the more violent and destructive the tornado is the more money the video is. I am not involved with search and rescue after the storms just video them in progress from a very close distance usually less than about 500 feet. hoping for another 2011 tornado season or a much worse season this year in the midwest/plains areas. bring on more grreensburg kansas or joplin mo. type tornadoes....
 
#26 ·
As a former news photographer who has worked in numerous disaster zones, these remarks are completely ignorant and you're one of the people that give the real professionals a bad name. Please stay out of my state because we don't need selfish adrenaline junkies like you acting like this. Thanks.

If you really think insurance company's actually pays you 100% for your total loss your a bigger dreamer than I thought. They pay you a fraction of what it is actually worth.
It really depends on what your coverages are. We regularly pay out claims where the house is a total loss but we paid full replacement cost (RCV) to rebuild because that's the coverage they purchased. It's a higher premium, but homeowner's policies are just about worthless if you don't have replacement cost coverage, especially in cases of theft. If your policy allows only for actual cash value (ACV) then we'll pay the cost to replace it, minus depreciation.
 
#20 ·
thats what insurance is for... we are out in the field providing real time info on the storms to the weather service and tv media for free so we are entitled to make as much as we can on video sales... its a known fact the more violent or the more damage that is captured on video the better it sells.
 
#21 ·
If you really think insurance company's actually pays you 100% for your total loss your a bigger dreamer than I thought. They pay you a fraction of what it is actually worth. By the way the Jeep Patriot has a low enough profile that you can drive right smack into the tornado. Good Luck
 
#22 ·
that must depend on the company... last year a tornado destroyed my garage, insurance company paid to replace the building plus paid replacement value for the things inside it plus the new bass boat that had a tree fall on it. only had to pay a $500.00 deductable which i am suing the neighbor for since it was their tree. total claim with the garage, garage contense boat and tree removal was $65,000.
 
#23 ·
a troll is attempting to hijack the thread! Quick back on subject!!! Way to stand your ground. I think they low-balled you. Then coming back with "maybe another 1k?" Yeah a-holes...

I am probably going to look at a Wrangler tomorrow. I am expecting the dealer to low ball me. But I have already spoken via email. I explained I used autotrader's trade in value estimator-which is how they got a sales lead on me-and I explained I was not happy with the offer.

The sales person explained they did not make the offer, but would honor the offer. :/

I then was very blunt in saying I had a number in mind that I would accept for the patriot and a price I would pay for the Wrangler. So I am going to take it in see what they offer and most likely leave without a new wrangler....
 
#24 ·
Up here in Jersey after the last major flooding the insurance company sent agents or assessors. This is what he told me, replace water heater 350.00 replace boiler 1800.00 they will pay for sheetrock but not the spackling or the painting. They don't cover the washer or dryer or any appliances and these people had flood insurance. The water heater cost me 550.00 plus you have to add the labor and the boiler installed was 5,500. Then when you finally settle on a number and your check arrives it's 4,000 short because of depreciation. Part of the problem is these assessors come from Alabama or the deep south and bring there Alabama pricing with them which is totally off scale with the North East.
 
#25 ·
A little off topic here, but I would like to add my insurance company offered replacement cost coverage, and opted for that over depreciated value coverage
 
#27 ·
After waiting around for the numbers they came back with an offer. Their "offer" was 11k for my Patriot! I told them that was absolutely ridiculous and there was no way for it to be worth that little.
They were waaay out of line. I traded my 2011 Lat X FDII even up for a brand new Wrangler. If they want to make the sale, they will.
 
#30 ·
also people that know me also know i would get rid of the house in a second if i needed that money to buy my suv. I would rather have the nicest vehicle than a residence.... houses are a waste of time and money. one of the reasons i bought the Patriot is there is enough room for an air matteress and a sleeping bag if i decide to go that route. when im chasing i never stay in a motel, ill sleep in the vehicle. a brick and mortar residence is useless
 
#31 ·
anyway, back to the stealership....

I was in for oil change Friday, saw a Liberty with sky slider open and carbon fiber interior blah, blah blah etc....and was totally smitten. I love the sky slider. Long story short, I like my riot alot and if u do a little digging u will find that the 2013/14 Liberty will be better and better on gas.

So I will wait and see. I may also like a new alfa (if chrysler will bring them here).

Smart choice is to stay the course in the 'Riot.

Keep it rollin'
 
#33 ·
Thanks,

The dealer did tell me about the Jeep Wagoneer coming back. After looking at it online it looks almost exactly like the Grand Cherokee but with an extended rear.

I was shocked at the deal they presented me at the dealership. I have a good bit of equity in my Patriot so I was looking for a good deal. The sales rep said that the Liberty had been on the lot for over a month and they were looking to make a deal. The Liberty did have a lot more miles on it than my current Patriot. So I was expecting to stay around the same for a car payment.

Overall it was a good learning experience and I'm glad I didn't take the bate. Of course they were trying everything to get me to take the deal. I can't wait to see how many times they call to make another offer.
 
#34 ·
I just got a letter in the mail stating that my dealership wants to buy my Patriot back because their "used" inventory is low. They were willing to give me 2k more than KBB value if I bought a new Jeep.

Totally not worth it. I just find this crazy because I was literally just sitting down at one of their desks looking into a trade in value. They totally low balled me and now they send me this letter. Well I don't care how much they want to give me for my Patriot I'm not planning on trading it in anytime soon.