HELL..i think just about all of us would purchase them if they were nt just so cost prohibitive..more clearance, better ride, better performance..and they make our Patriots look kick-ass..:smiley_thumbs_up:

and there are probably other s out there waiting for warranties to expire..and others who have no idea who Stu is..

i wish him the best..once a stateside distributor sign s on i expect his products will take off..

and if all go s as it has in the land of OZ..we may even see them in our local Jeep dealers shelves..

 

You are right, it is expensive and I'm kinda careful disassembling suspension component before warranty expire. On the other hand, I look forward to get feedback from people getting it to help me in my decision. It is certainly not the will to get it that is missing...

I would not have them install in a garage but by a friend who is doing mechanic. I'm just wondering how difficult and risky is to change coil spring. It scares me a bit to see my Jeep disassemble. But I don't fear the quality and the result of such a mod.

Would be awesome to have a well documented video of someone installing the coils, front and rear.

 

I just got my shipping confirmation from Stu about an hour ago so really looking forward to getting them soon:banana: and will update this post accordingly:smiley_thumbs_up:

 

I think for the most part it's the initial cost for North Americans. $650AUD to have them shipped over here is a bit steep just for springs. Yes I understand he's gone through the R&D and the such. For example, look at most 2.5"-4" lift springs for a TJ or a wrangler, they can easily be had for $300-$400USD shipped. Yes the market is different but in the end twice the cost? really?

I'm not knocking down the product whatsoever, most who have it hear speak well of them. Personally I find it a bit steep for just a spring kit and not being provided specs such a spring rates and the such is a deal breaker for me.

 

Tastefully Said. Amen.

 

I have them installed. I paid the higher price but they are worth it.

Install is pretty easy, just time consuming. I honestly cannot say enough good things about Stu's springs. The little jeep drives more like it should. No more harsh slamming on a stiff bump, etc. The springs are stiffer/firmer but provide a much more plush ride.

Ride quality is greatly enhanced over the stock springs on all terrain from the street to trail. Shop aligned them easily, no issue there.

I would say the most helpful thing during install is an impact wrench and a strap wrench. Use the strap wrench on the strut shaft to keep it from spinning and take the top nut off with the impact wrench. Repeat to reinstall top nut. Obviously you need spring compressors and the rest of the required gear as well.

 

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the kind words and thread as such.

I'm currently working on a way to get them over to you at an even more affordable price, but in saying that it could take a while. I really want you guys to experience the Coils and what they deliver in terms of ride quality and performance as I'm proud of how they've turned out.

For all of you who either have them installed or plan to get them, can you please keep me posted on the before and after measurements center of wheel to guard. I'd like to make sure that your US spec vehicle sits at the same level as the Australian ones.
I may even make them another 10mm (3/8th inch) higher but want to see results first.

Im also working out how I can get my Bars to you at a reasonable price, to the point where Im going to try and get them made by someone in the States. Can you guys give me a pointer as to who might be the best bet? Or even generate a list with contact details? Please keep that to PM's so as not to clog up this thread and create other discussion.

Best Regards and I look forward to serving you guys,

Cheers
CRDSTU.

 

Stu,

My measurements are posted in one of the other threads, checked it last week and it has remained the same after 6,500 miles.

 

i am new but is this kit better then the rro lift or can both be used just wondering

 

That's a good question... I've been looking around myself for a lift, but since I've heard a few horror stories with the RRO lift kit, it was like a cold shower for me.

Now what's about the spring? Certainly gives a badass look to ours Pat, but some more feedback would be appreciated! And from what I understand, this is what's this tread about!

 

I tried the link that was posted, but the site is still 'under construction'. the Grand Cherokee on the homepage looked hot though.....

 

like stated before i am new but what are some of the stories with regards to the rro lift

 

from what I read, and what kept me away from RRO and made the decision to spend the coin on Stu's springs, they have been an epic bitch for some people to get aligned.

I can tell you this, the coils were pretty damn easy to install and I did it by myself in the garage. This is the forth vehicle i have installed a lift on by myself: 2003 F250, 1998 2 door tahoe, and an old ass wagoneer.

Keeping that in mind, the suspension on the patriot is kind of silly in comparison. I would call it delicate and precise. There is not a lot of adjustability so if something is out of whack i can imagine it would cause a hell of a problem.

All in all, they both achieve the same result but via a different means. In my opinion, a true spring lift is always going to be better than a blocks or spacers lift. Like I said, my opinion and I voted with my dollars accordingly.

 

just a heads up, we will be doing the swap out today, hopefully will have time to do photoes etc, also will do lots of comparative measurements etc.

 

We look forward to see and hear about it.

 

thanks for the info guys i have a lifted dakota with a body lift and strut spacer so i am not against the spacer but would rather do springs but if price isnt right i will go the right way lol

 

Hey Stu, have you thought about contacting a local machine shop in the USA or Canada? I'm sure they could make the springs based on your design, thus saving you (and us) the shipping to North America..

Another option would be to send a huge batch to North America and have a local distributor..

 

Another option would be to send a huge batch to North America and have a local distributor..

a little birdy told me that is what is possibly being orginised atm

 

Well in that case my Pat is going to have yellow springs epper:

 

x2 !

 

just a heads up, we will be doing the swap out today, hopefully will have time to do photoes etc, also will do lots of comparative measurements etc.

looking forward on this... I'm very interested and excited to know what would happen.

 

Hey Stu,

I was wondering, what are the specs of the springs? More precisely, are they longer or are they just stiffer? Front and rear? How much longer?

 

Well, if you need a place to ship, I have an account with DHL with a decent discount. If you have enough orders for a bulk shipment, I could get the shipment here, and then distribute in the US.

 

my 1st post here..


looks like i will be ordering a pat tom!!!! i got a good deal on base..... and these would be so nice....


so i take it they are ready?

 

so i take it they are ready?

I don't understand that sentence.

 

ok here are some comparison piccies, we will be doing a full comparison report soon, reason for the delay is we ran out of time to do a proper alignment. one thing we have found and waiting to confirm but is seems that 2007 models may actualy be lower as the results for the changeover are identical so a spacer lift the same as a spring lift, but i am waitng for confimation on measurements, one thing i can say is handling has improved dramaticaly...more to come

rear RRO on left

removed extra bit which allows for larger tyres

rear with padding on springs

front RRO on left

 

one thing we have found and waiting to confirm but is seems that 2007 models may actualy be lower as the results for the changeover are identical so a spacer lift the same as a spring lift

Err... What do you mean by this? Sorry, but it's just not parsing for me at all.

 

Hats off to you Aussies for the pictures. I look forward to the reasonable MSRP Stu...maybe even a jeeppatriot.com member only price? Just thinking out loud. A month ago I thought MKs were limited to an RRO lift, it seems like Stu came outta nowhere, am I alone on this? Any more secret upgrades I'm not aware about?

Quick question for member Kaizer27, how were you able to get these?

 

Hi guys,

Thanks for the post zbee.

I'm currently pricing warehousing and distribution in the US with the stock based in California. Yes it will bring the cost down some more as that is the aim but it may take a while. After the Pallet of coils are ordered there is shipping/customs handling blah blah blah so she's going to take some time before she gets there.

I'm also re igniting the posibility of getting my bars made over there. Looks like I'll be sending one over to evaluate.

In relation to another benefit of my coils Vs a spacer lift, the spacer lift will actually make the car hit its bottom out bumps stops quicker than the coils as the mounting point has been altered, not the encaptulated travel inside the strut. That combined with the soft uninspiring spring rate of the stock Pat coils makes for a questionable ride imo. I've spent many years in the Suspension Industry, I've designed coils and shocks for a living once, and am now back doing what I love! I'm about to revalve some OME LTR shocks for a WH/K grand cherokee to tune them for a specific ride.

I've also seen the mention that the coils havent come up as far in the front end of a CVT vehicle, we havent lifted one of those yet, I dont think there's as many of them over here. If someone else has a CVT and it comes up to the same height as the other CVT vehicles I'll make a specific 'CVT' coil.

Feel free to ask questions ect, its only natural probably best to get me here stuart@murchisonproducts.com.au as I'm more available there.

Best Regards as always,
CRDStu

 

Murcho, you GOOD GUY to do everything to help Jeep Patriot owners.

 

Thanks champ! :smiley_thumbs_up:

 

Coils arrived today :banana: thanks Stu!!!

Long weekend coming up so I may try the install if I can get all the tools required

 

aside from the usual wrenches/sockets/etc. Get an impact gun and a stap wrench and you will be good to go. You need a 17mm (i believe) socket which is kind of odd but can get it at any autozone.

The install is pretty straightforward really, just takes some time.

Remove the strut assembly, compress coils, remove the top nut, pull off old spring, compress new springs, install top nut, replace strut assembly and done.

 

Thanks guys - did an inventory check so all I need is the strap wrench and coil spring compressor which I will try to hire.

Question if I may - do I need a torque wrench and if so are there specific values for the Pat to re-tighten?

Zbee if you read this post - was there any reason for the padding on the rear coils in your post and if i were to get them what exactly am I looking for

 

You should definitely get your hands on a torque wrench to make sure you torque everything down to spec.

BTW, where in Ontario are you located? I'd love to see what your Patriot looks like after and how it rides so I can make my decision

 

we decided to put it on for an experimanet, its just plastic strip stuff same as what is used wrapped around cables, its only on the rear, makes no diffrence so can be ignored my beast is becoming a bit of a test bed

 

ok sorry, measurements of 2007 models seem to be less than later models for standard hieght. just waitng to confirm, the best way to measure is from center of hub to under guard edge, there seems to be a slight diffrence in this measurement between 2007 and 2009 models, just waitng for some comparative measurements form stu, as to ride there is a definate difference especially in the rear, no clunking whatsoever when hittng hard bumps and there is a firmwer ride aswell

 

Do you mean 2007 models sit originally lower than 2009 models, or that the lift does not lift 2007 models as high as 2009 models?