If you think the Patriot is bad ( Although it never really bothered me ) , you want to try the Dodge Caliber, narrow windscreen & a dashboard the size of a small aircraft carrier.Also thick pillars that a truck could hide behind. Yep the Pat was never perfect , but there is worse out there!!

 

The advantage is driving east in the morning, or west in the evening, it keeps the sun out of your eyes better than others.

 

Are you being serious???? Never had such a bad vehicle for sunlight, the visors are a joke and the tinting on the top of the windscreen is laughable in that it doesnt actually do anything apart from block a small amount behind the mirror....and I am 6' 3" so its not like I'm not tall enough!

 

Up here in Toronto our traffic lights are on the far side of the intersection for each direction of traffic so its never been a problem. When I've ventured to the US (not with the Riot) I did notice some traffic lights were situated on the near side of the intersection and this would definately create a problem with the Patriot. I've also seen 1 four way traffic signal dangling right in the middle of the interesction supported by cables. This I suppose wouldn't be a problem for the Pat either.


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weird... please drive a 300 or charger and you will notice the difference...

I´ll never change my pat for that "issue" :S

 

once in a while i have that issue but i also have the seat jacked way up since i like to be able to see the hood of my own car when i drive.

 

The windshield on a pat seems huge compared to my TJ. I'd say it's a Jeep thing, you're not going to understand, only my Charger is the same way. I typically look at the lights on the side of the road now, don't even notice I'm doing it.

 

My xB was similar, so I was used to it. The intersections here are really wide, so it's not a problem for me. If the intersections are really narrow where you are, you would have to crane your neck forward to see the light. Maybe try stopping just a little further back?

 

I went from a pick-up to the Pat. The first time I test drove one I felt like I was inside a coffin with wheels. I couldn't even reach the front windshield to wipe off the fogging.

Yes, I am 6'4" and have to lean forward to see the light when I'm first in line at the redlight. Pain in the arse.

 

Cheaper to replace if cracked...

 

if the stop lights are that close to your car where they're right above you, i make use of my sunroof

 

I haven't had any issues with the windshield and seeing traffic lights and such. And I am 6'3" so I sit up very high so it would be worse for me than a shorter person.

I have noticed a lot of blind spots when trying to change lanes however and the rearview mirror is basically useless.

 

I'm 5'10" and I have trouble seeing traffic lights on the other side of the intersection.

 

does anyone actually even use the stop lights that are located on the corners of the intersections...on the poles that support the other lights, those are much easier to see

 

Well, the Commander's windshield is nearly vertical and I'd say under 20" tall. The CJ/Wrangler is vertical and can't be 14" high. I guess, stop farther away or move the seat foreword and/or down(if you have a power seat). (or look out of the sun roof) Since I'm short, I've never encountered any visibility problems with the Patriot.

 

We don't have "side redlights" where I live. My seat is all the way down and I can't move it forward or my knees hit the dashboard. I guess some areas have bigger intersections where you stop further back, but where I am if I'm the first in line and pull up to the mark on the road, I usually have to lean forward to see the light.

 

Yes, I was serious, as compared to my Ram and Tracker the Jeep is easier when driving into the sun in the morning or evening. I have my seat up all the way too.