Totally ok to tow up to 2000 lbs with an oil cooler, as stated by the manufacturer. mrjeepr44, maybe your jeep is broken, cause my 2012 2.0 with cvt2 blows the doors off of almost any truck out there (0 to 60 in under 9sec), including v8 grand cherokees, and when towing 1000 lbs, it handles like theres nothing behind me.
I don't want to start a fight with you( seriously ). My response is more along the lines of watch what you say or it will make you look foolish.
Point one is the Grand Cherokee is not a "truck". It is an SUV. A "truck" has a cab and open bed. You should not group multiple vehicle classes under one name. It is ok to call a CUV like the Patriot an SUV but calling( or implying )a Grand Cherokee a truck is totally inaccurate.
My 2nd point is that I have owned many V8 trucks in my adult life( muscle cars prior ). I have even owned a V6 model( 2005 Tacoma 4WD )and a 4cyl model( 88 Ram 50 4WD ). I now own a 2011 Patriot( 2.4L FDI ). Thus I have a pretty good field of experience to comment on your words quoted above.
I have to say, with all possible respect, that you are seriously fooling yourself about the performance of your Patriot. Now, my Patriot would certainly hold it's own with the 88 Ram 50 I had with the 4 cyl but it wouldn't blow it away. About even. Pretty much what I have seen from 4cyl Rangers and S10's. The Tacoma I had would easily out tow and out run my Patriot. All of the V8 FS truck I have had would destroy it in any competition short of passing gas stations(
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I have to wonder, based on your comments, if you have ever driven a modern( late 90's + )FS truck and/or modern V6 & V8 SUV's? You seem to think your 2.0L Patriot is a giant killer. Most late 90's - 2007 or so V8's used in trucks and SUV's put out anywhere from 250-350+ HP depending on the displacement. Newer ones( 09+ )put out near to or over 400HP. Even the smaller V8 engines in FS trucks are now at or above 300 HP. If you have ever driven these types of vehicles I don't see how you could be trying to tell us that your Patriot is faster.
Your comments sort of remind me of the ricer crowd and the way they talk about their vehicles. You know, the guys who put a wing, some tribal graphics, fancy rims, and a fart can on their little Civics and suddenly think they have a road rocket. :icon_rolleyes: They act like they have something out of the Fast & Furious when what they have is from the Retarded & Ridiculous. Can't tell you the number of times a "rice rocket" would try and get me to race with one of my trucks( I dress them up and mod them out ). I just :doh: and ignore them as they zoom off sounding like a food processor on roids.
My last truck( 08 HEMI Ram 345 HP/375 FTLBS )could eat up a 2.0L/2.4L Patriot with me driving in reverse while eating a sandwich and talking on my cell in a 0-60, 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, etc... run. That truck was a 4WD Quad Cab as well weighing in at over 5500lbs. Compared to many of the newer( 09+ ) models out there my 08 HEMI Ram would be under powered so a Patriot would be at an even bigger disadvantage. Any 2.0L/2.4L stock Patriot would be nothing more than an appetizer in a race vs most any modern V8 FS truck or SUV. Even modern V6 engines like Chrysler's new Pentastar are pushing 300+/- HP. A new Ford F150 with the 3.5L V6 Ecoboost is pushing 365 HP and 420 FTLBS. Think your Patriot can match up with that in a 0-60 or towing pull? A GC w/ the Pentastar would thrash a Patriot.
The Patriot is just not a speed vehicle. It can adequately get up to speed in normal driving but it is a far cry from a fast vehicle.
Third comment is that I would hope your Patriot could tow 1000lbs as if it weren't back there. A regular sedan can do that. There is a HUGE difference between towing 1000lbs and 2000lbs though. Put 2000lbs behind your Patriot and tow that for a while and you will see what a big difference it is. It is about as much as the 2.4L can handle never mind the 2.0L.
Again, I am not trying to be a jerk( I know it sounds that way but not the intent )but please do not compare the Patriot, of any variety, to
"...any truck out there (0 to 60 in under 9sec), including v8 grand cherokees..."and expect us to agree or believe it. That is the furthest thing from the truth and if you had experience with trucks and V8 SUV's like the GC you would know that.
The Patriot is a great little CUV. It is ideal for daily commuting( MPG ), family use, some off roading, and minimal towing. It is not a 0-60 rocket nor is it a towing machine. I love my 2011 model so this is not any slam on the Patriot. Just asking you to use some common sense when posting.
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