Well. I'm going to run the stock wheels and tires for about a month once I get my patriot back, and then run the aftermarket setup and see if there is a difference. If we decide to sell them I'll let you know first. So you've got a couple months or so to save up if you really want them. Plus. You're probably one of the closest to me and I'd love to take a trip to Az and try out the new (new to me) 4runner. My wife has slowly been taking over the patriot, so I traded her commuter because she doesn't commute to work anymore.