do you have a local tyre bloke you trust? if you do talk to them....

if 205 70 16 tyres are an unusual size where you are, you could always go to 215 65 16

otherwise, go for a mid-priced tyre, cheapies tend to be crap, expensive ones tend to be very task specific

my 2c

 

Sounds like a good all season radial might work fine for you. I run Firestone all seasons on my Chevy Tracker and they work well on there, nice on the road, but work in our winters too, and work well enough off road even in deep snow.

I replaced the SR-As on mine with another set of the same. Thinking I'll trade it in soon anyway.

 

Thanks for the input. However I recall seeing several threads that specifically dealth with tires that would work complete with links and the like but can't find them now.

Anyone know where they went?

Thanks again.

 

215/65/r16 are actually little smaller then the stock 205/70/r16...

if you dont want stock the next biggest is a 215/70/r16 its only 3/4in taller then the stock tire and so far the yokohoma geolander ats and the general grabber at2 is the most used and highest rated for that tire size i can find

general grabber at2 is like 376 for 4 has (60,000 treadwear) has a 14/32 tread-depth
yokohoma geolander at2 is 384 for 4 again (couldn't find tread wear) has a 12/32 tread-depth

all this is found at

http://www.tirerack.com you have to copy and paste the link though. it doesnt work on this website because the autoguide.com owner site has an ad block for some tire sale website.......

 

Thanks guys. I just found the threads I was looking for....they are in the knowledge base.

 

I like the General tires (the Yoko's are rated at 50,000) but does anyone on here have tires on their Patriot where you run mostly on the highways and limited off-road?????

My Patriot is a 4x2 and I seldom go off-road and primarily run the highways and paved roads so I am looking for tires that fit that bill. However, after reading so many threads here it seems like most, if not all, are directed towards off-roading!

Again, I want tires that provide a safe, quiet and fuel-efficient ride that allow me to drive onto a farm field when its frozen or solid for my hunting. I live in Illinois but hunt all over the state and up to North Dakota on occasion.

Again, I need specific input/assistance!

Thank you all!!!

 

There are very few choices in the 205/70R16 size. I've decided to switch over to the 215/70R16 Geolander AT-S for about as much off road as you are describing. I wanted a tire with tougher sidewalls for the poorly maintained, sometimes rocky (2-3 inches of somewhat jagged rocks in places), sometimes muddy road I regularly travel. I call this "off pavement" but not "off-road". Of course, another person might put them on because they plan to do a "lot" of "rugged off pavement".

For gas mileage, you don't want a real wide tire, because it adds to your frontal area, or a real tall tire, because it adds to your frontal area. A taller heavier tire will also adversely affect acceleration and braking in proportion to how much taller it is. That's mostly why I am going just one size larger, 215/70R16, instead of 225/70R16, which is reported to not have rubbing issues and would look more "rugged". The 215/70R16 is the same size as the upgrade alloy wheel and tire package with 215/65R17's, so a dealer can reprogram the computer to make the speedometer and odometer read correctly with the tire height increase. If Yokahama made the Geolander AT-S in a 205/70R16, I would be getting that instead of the 215/70R16.

IMO and FWIW and YMMV.

 

I call this "off pavement" but not "off-road". Of course, another person might put them on because they plan to do a "lot" of "rugged off pavement".

lol, clever - crap roads and rough winters around here too

 

go to tirerack.com and do a search for a 215/70/r16 (they only have like 3 tires at 205/70/r16) the 215 is only .4in taller.

do a search by tire size, and use the options to search for highway/all season and when you see a tire you like click on it then click on the warranty tab on right most have 50k tread life

you can look for winter tires but i haven't found any that have a tread life warranty.

so far

general grabber at2
yokohoma geolander at/s
dunlop radial rover a/t

found on other websites
dean wildcat a/t
cooper discover h/t

all have a 50k or more tread-life warranty and are under 120$ per tire
economical, good tread life and good for highway and maybe a dirt road or 2.

tires to avoid based on reviews and tread life
falken high country a/t

 

Thanks.

I am just amazed that nearly all the threads I have read on here going back months are all related to off-road and very, very little even mention highway as the primary use...

Maybe I ought to start a thread on that to obtain more targeted feedback?

Thanks again.

 

I think it's because they don't make a super aggressive mud tire that is not really an all-terrain tire except like 3 maybe. so most of the people have a highway/light to medium off road tire due to limited sizes and limited ability.
you could try but just look at tread life warranty believe it or not a friend had some 35x12.50x16.5 bfgoodrich much terrains and had the center lugs siped due to new commute 45mi each way and he got over 53k out of them.

 

He is not looking for off-road, AT tires. He is looking for on-road highway tires.

 

Thank you! I would have thought there would be others out there like me and would have been in the same situation.

 

I'd do a good all season and this is the by far best site on the web - order for friends and family on here as well and the local Tires plus puts them on for $10 a wheel!

www.tires-easy.com

 

For 8 months a year I'm using Cooper CS4 "T" touring tires. They are a reasonable price and have a rating of 780 A A. These are available in 225/65/16 size. They are smooth riding and quiet and probably have a long tread life.

http://www.coopertire.com/HTML/products/tires_passenger.aspx?page=cs4_touring_t

 

Those are good specs. I don't know much about Cooper.

I really like www.tirerack.com for browsing tires. Search by size is perfect and the sorting tools are great.

 

your size options are:

205/70/16-hard to find

215/70/16-3/4 taller,but still in the speedometer range.
215/65/16-slightly lower,but still within speedometer range
225/65/16-almost as high as your stock 205/70/16

I'd go for the 225/65/16. I had 215/60/17 on my stock wheels and switched to 235/55/17,so wider tires,and the ride is incredible.
Better cornering,better stability on the freeway,different vehicle.

 

Toyo Open Country HT's should do fine for you.

"The Open Country H/T (Highway Terrain) is an RV tyre designed for users who predominantly use their vehicles on sealed roads. The Open Country H/T provides high levels of grip on wet or dry sealed roads, very low levels of tread noise and high levels of ride comfort. Suitable for mild off-road use. Excellent flotation on sand." (Review)

My son has them on his RAV4 and they have lasted a long time and they serve his purposes well. I did read in an off-road site in the3ir review that for mild-off roading, they held there own pretty well for an H/T tire. This may be what you are looking for.

 

It seems most of the tires recommended so far are special order in my neck of the woods...

I am looking at a General Grabber HTS which seems to have good reviews for the most part. Anyone have these or experience with them?

Thanks to everyone!

 

Was just about to order them from Sears and they raised the price $35 per tire overnight!!

That ticks me off!

 

Link to the actual survey list I made is not working so I just gave you the names of Tire Racks top-21 on/off road A/T tires. They are in order of ranking though. Good luck.


Kumho Road Venture SAT KL61
Firestone Destination A/T
Michelin LTX A/T 2
Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo
Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo (2)
Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor
Pirelli Scorpion ATR
Dick Cepek Radial F-C II
General Grabber AT 2
Fuzion XTi
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO
Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S
Kumho Road Venture AT KL78
Dunlop Radial Rover RVXT
Bridgestone Dueler A/T D695
Bridgestone Dueler A/T RH-S
Sumitomo HTR Sport A/T
Bridgestone Dueler A/T D693 II
Goodyear Wrangler AT/S
General AmeriTrac TR
Hankook Dynapro AT RF08



Info based on consumers completing Tire Rack's online survey. "10" is the highest. See key below or read detailed descriptions of survey categories.

 

I myself was researching some on-road tires and looks like General Grabber HTS and Yokohama Geolander H/T-S G051. They seem to be among best rated all season highway tires and are priced about the same. Check out pics and a feedback of G051s below.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67632&highlight=yokohama

 

I'm at 41000 miles and suspect I will be changing around 50000. Gonna put Hankook H727tires on it...All-season radials with 100,000 mile treadlife...About $109 each from Discount Tire...we put them on our Ford Freestar minivan after reading about them in Consumer Reports...They are AMAZING TIRES.

 

An UPDATE on my purchase.


Well, I went with the General Grabber II HTS back then and have had them balanced and rotated every 6000 miles. Right now they have just over 40000 miles (I hunt a lot) and they are shot!

These are suppose to be good for at least 60000 miles and I barely got 2/3's that!!!

And, of course, I will not see a 1/3 credit back on new ones either!!

So, BUYER BEWARE.

Also, what does the forums recommend nowadays as I NEED new ones ASAP???

Thank you all again!