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Both have their place. I think that the Cherokee fits somewhere just between the two.

Unless I can figure out how to affordably get a v6 turbo diesel engine to fit into a used commander, we will be looking more closely at the Libby.
 
those pics of the patriot with the forester make the patriot look AMAZING :)
 
This weekend I noticed a Patriot parked next to a Scion xB in the parking lot of a grocery store. I was really surpised to see that the two vehicles appeared to be the same height; separately, the xB seems so much more diminutive than the Patriot. I snapped a pic with my phone...

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This weekend I noticed a Patriot parked next to a Scion xB in the parking lot of a grocery store. I was really surpised to see that the two vehicles appeared to be the same height; separately, the xB seems so much more diminutive than the Patriot. I snapped a pic with my phone...

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That is unreal, I'd have though that was Photo Shopped. The xB actually looks a fraction taller. Was that a 2 wheel drive Patriot ?
 
...The xB actually looks a fraction taller...
I think that is just a result of my vantage point when I snapped the pic. I noticed when I was standing off to the side of the xB that the Patriot looked a smidge taller (and vice versa), but when I stood exactly between them they appeared the same height.

...Was that a 2 wheel drive Patriot ?
Nope. It had the "4x4" badge on the back.
 
I purchased my '08 Patriot when the transmission died in my '02 Liberty (!?). People thought the Patriot was larger than the Liberty and I finally looked up the information - the Liberty (earlier years, I suppose) is 0.5" longer, 0.25" wider and 5" taller.

Also the 2009 Forester is going to be larger than previous ones.
 
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