Thanks for that - and what a difference on the automatic model!

 

Still can't wait to see numbers for a Diesel Patriot!

 

I'm getting 23 City with the Auto... and I only have 400 miles on it. Driving style has a significant impact on MPG. I'm the kind of driver that looks far ahead and anticipates starts and stops. And I always get AT LEAST AS GOOD as the "inflated" MPG ratings. I fully expect to get 27+ on the highway.

update: I just checked the "new" MPG for my old vehicle ('05 Scion xB)... they say 27/31, I was consistently getting 32/36.

My wife is a "press the accelerator until I have to press the brake" type of driver and she always complains of poor MPG numbers.

 

Good Post... Thanks!!!
That 4WD MPG is what I'm Getting now in my Vue.....
another point to the Patriot "pro" side.

 

Patriot gas milage

well, I have gone through 4 tanks of gas and I still haven't gotten better than 20 MPG. And, I am not an acceleration nut or a real speed type of guy.

How is everyone else doing?

 

well, I have gone through 4 tanks of gas and I still haven't gotten better than 20 MPG. And, I am not an acceleration nut or a real speed type of guy.

How is everyone else doing?

I have filled up about a dozen times and am getting around 25-26. I have over 2k miles on it though!

 

I looked at the new epa ratings for the turbocharged Subaru Legacy GT my wife got in june and the numbers we get are way better than what they posted. And we drive in pretty fast and in alot of traffic.

 

you guys should post what kind of patriot you have. I'm sure a 2WD 5 speed gets much better mpg than a 4WD CVTII Patriot...

 

Hey good thinking!

I have an auto 4WD sport. I did some skiing this week so I had some highway miles so I got a little better...23mpg. Still, not very great as the Patriot only has a 13.5 gallon tank. At the 17-18 MPG I have been averaging I am getting around 235. not good....

 

Trail Rated MPG

Does anyone know the MPG on a trailrated limited?
Also, When I ordered my Trailrated Limited I noticed on the form it said 6.2 additional gallons of gas. Does this mean I'm getting a bigger tank?

 

When I ordered mine they explained that each Patriot came with 6.2 gallons of gas in the tank. If you are not careful they will also charge you $16 extra for it.

 

Ive never heard of a car that didnt come with a complementary full tank of gas. My best friend just got a Dodge Ram 2500 and they filled it up for him. And every car Ive ever bought came with a full tank free of charge. I think there may have been a misunderstanding there.

 

wow a whole extra $16, be careful...... are you kidding

 

Our Patriot 4 X 4, Limited, CVTII, Automatic: 1350 miles driven, mixed country/city/hwy, some ice & snow and generally cold temps. 22.3 MPG. The new EPA estimates are 22 MPG for the Patriot.

It's interesting to note the revised estimates for some of the Patriot's competitors:

Suzuki Grand Vitara = 19
Honda CR-V = 22
Honda Element = 21
Rav4 (4 cylinder) = 22
Rav4 (6 cylinder) = 21
Ford Escape (4 cylinder) = 20
Ford Escape (6 cylinder) = 19.

 

Why the press says that CVT offer better MPG numbers when the difference between manual and CVT are 2MPG against CVT (at least with EPA measurement)
Or the statement is only valid between traditional auto and CVT?

 

they are talking about the CVT getting better gas mileage than a traditional automatic

 

The 6.2 Gallons of gas listed on the invoice is how much the factory puts in it to get it off and on of transports, etc. The tank is the same size as the other Patriots. Yes, 2wd vs. 4wd, and auto vs. manual will make some difference in fuel economy too. With most of those it is a weight issue, and then some gearing ratios (I think-With CVT I'm not sure though). Plus, most vehicles do not hit the optimum fuel milage until they have a few thousand miles on them to properly break them in. Engines these days don't have to be driven more conservatively to break them in, but they do need some time to perform the best.

This is my $.02 on the subject! I used to sell cars (ha ha, snicker snicker) at a Ford/Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep dealership, so I know (or remember) some of the ins and outs.

 

Does anyone know the weight of a trail rated limited vs. a regular 4X4 limited? I know that can effect mpg.

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2832528

This isn't Jeep related. But I thought it was pretty funny.

 

The weight different is probably minimal since the Trail rated version is nearly identical to the FD1 system. Save for the ride height, some electronic programing and a couple tow hooks... There are no skid plates offered (that I know of)

The biggest difference between FD1 and FD2 is the pulley ratios inside the CVT and this is what effects the MPG rating on the FD2 models so much {they have a higher final drive ratio.}


My sisters 4x2 Compass just did 130 miles on a 1/4 tank of gas. After we filled it up again I ran the numbers and it worked out to roughly 30MPG on the highway.

 

The weight different is probably minimal since the Trail rated version is nearly identical to the FD1 system. Save for the ride height, some electronic programing and a couple tow hooks... There are no skid plates offered (that I know of)

The biggest difference between FD1 and FD2 is the pulley ratios inside the CVT and this is what effects the MPG rating on the FD2 models so much {they have a higher final drive ratio.}

There are skid plates offered. It has an engine & transmission and fuel tank steel skid plates that are 3.2 mm thick. Additionally, it has an extra oil cooler, the radiator is heavy duty w/ a higher wattage fan, it has a bigger alternator, it has venting for the rear differential, additional structural reinforcement of the rear suspension, and it has a differant ABS unit. So I think there is a signifigant wieght differance. Of course the drive ratio would make a differance in a traditional transmission but theoretically, it should make less of a differance in a CVT because the transmission is variable. Because it can vary its ratios to essentially anything in a certain range whereas a traditional tranny is locked at certain ratios, I would think the main place you would notice a differance if the wieghts were the same would be at high speeds where you are approaching the ratio limits of the transmission. Its hard to say what the FDII's will get as far as MPG beacuase they havent hit the dealerships yet and even then, they will get better MPG after they are broken in.

 

about how many MPGs would the trail rated get?

 

Yup, you are right. I am a little bit suprised about all of the structural reinforcment parts needed...

So what kind of weight is that? 500 extra pounds? It can't be too much more right? The last time I looked at the MPG numbers on the website it was 28MPG for the FD1 and 24MPG for the FD2 but we all know how accurate an EPA estimate really is.

 

Ive been trying to figure it out, I havent seen any FDII specific numbers. I would guess that its at least 300lbs.

 

Skid Plates

Indeed there are some skid plates on the FDII, for the fuel tank. Snagged (read stole) these pics somewhere online, and would credit them, but don't remember where I got them.

I've had mine for almost 3 weeks, got 23.6 mpg on first tank, 23.4 on second tank, and am at about 24.9 on third tank, which is almost gone. Sport, FDI, 5 spd manual. My commute is about 20 miles, not during rush hour (which is key-I don't endure stop and go traffic), and about half surface streets w/ stop lights/signs, then half on highway (slowly accelerate and set cruise asap).

I can amuse myself (very mildly) by watching the average mpg on the EVIC. It will slowly tick downward by tenths of mpg while on the surface streets, and then slowly tick upward by tenths when the cruise is set on the highway.

Yeah I milk the mileage--I can kick in the clutch and coast almost 3/4 mile into my driveway if I crest a nearby hill at about 33-35 mph. I also do a lot of coasting toward exit ramps, stops, anywhere that I don't need to maintain a speed or accelerate. It just requires anticipation....

 

Well if you get the FD II package and want to get rid of some extra weight, I know some girl would be very happy to take the skid plates off of your hands :-D

 

not me, I'll definatly need em!!!!

 

I just got my Trail Rated FD2...got 22.2 mpg on first tank full. I drive easy and not a lot of stop and go...So far the mpg is treating me pretty well, I originally ordered a FD1 because of the gas mileage and the fact that I'm much more of a commuter than off-roader...But they got one in and I couldn't wait. I love the fact that it comes with additional cooling, seals, and relocated vents. I'm hoping that this will yield some more durablilty in the long run....

 

First gas fill up

Greetings!

When I got my new Patriot Sport (FWD, CVT) I got a voucher from the dealership for a full tank of gas, so I topped it off (13.5 gal tank) and set the Trip A odometer. This weekend I drove it until I got the low gas warning light. The manual says that goes off with two gallons left, so I figured 11.5 gallons @ 264 miles and came up with 22.9 miles per gallon as my first real world gas mileage. Not too bad for mostly city driving.

 

I HOPE they charge me $16.00 for the 6.2 gallons of gas. Regular low-test cheapo gas here in San Diego is $3.35 per gallon, so I'll save enough money buying gas from Chrysler to get 2 fish tacos for lunch!

 

I have a 2wd automatic Sport. Now, granted... I'm still on the first tank and have only put 150 miles on the car but I'm at 24mph city. Not too shabby (heck of a lot better than the 19mpg my Ranger got). I have the mpg indicator in the instrument cluster so it's actually quite fun to drive around and try to get that mpg to crawl upward.

 

thats pretty good especially considering it will prob go up as you put more miles on your car