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Exterior L.E.D. lights; particularly back ups

2.8K views 14 replies 8 participants last post by  Silverone  
#1 ·
Are the multi SMT L.E.D cluster lights up to par these days to OEM filaments?

I was looking on V-LED.COM and they have some that I think are pretty good, a little pricey, but if they help with backing up in the dark (being brighter)with the same or less amp draw, then I would definately be interested.


Do these intense led's burn out fast?
Also, is there a heat issue with these L.E.D'S? Is that even an issue?

In a nutshell, are they worth the money? :)

Thanks,

Gary
 
#2 · (Edited)
Not so sure on how effective they will be but I can say that a member here was ingenious enough to add some Silverstars as back-up lights and reportedly increased his lighting quite a bit. As for any heat from a LED setup, this will be much less than an incandescent bulb. I repleaced all the interior dome lights with LEDS and the heat effect is almost null. You save on energy as well.

If I find that thread I will port it here for you.

EDIT: Here is that thread...
 
#3 ·
The heat output of LED's is very small, the problem with putting led's in a stock type light housing on any vehicle is that they usually only direct light one way and not 360 degrees around to take advantage of the reflectors in the lens. If you do get led's make sure they are similar to the first bulbs on this page

http://autolumination.com/906.htm

One thing to keep in mind is that the brightest led's won't be as bright as standard bulbs, especially when use in conventional housings. But the led's do have a neat look.

Now my silverstar backup lights are very VERY bright, but they do put off a fair amount of heat, although it hasn't been a problem and i've had them in for a few months now.
 
#4 ·
too bad I don't think these would fit - always been curious about them....

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My plan is to upgrade my bulbs (brake/backup/turns) to LED's from v-leds.com just need to figure out if I'll need to add an in-line resistor or not. I already have interior LED's from them and I love them!
 
#6 ·
Argent,

Yea, I saw those too. The ones I was looking at had a ridiculous amount of led's in them in a radius and on the end too, so should be plenty bright. It was something like 48or more l.e.d.s for the rear/brake light.

Guys,

how do You get the rear lens cover off for the lights. I'm afraid of breaking off that little round thing You pull. Is there a special tool; should I have extra on hand if I do get the LED'S? You just pull it straight out, right?

Thanks, again.

Gary
 
#9 ·
because led's draw way less current than the standard bulbs, the electronics may think that you have a bulb burned out somewhere in the circuit. You can usually purchase and aftermarket flasher module to fix the problem.

As for removing the tail lights, if you look closely at the black round "thingy" there will be a center part to it and you'll see a little indent where you could wedge a flat head screw driver, carefully pry this piece upwards and then grab some needle nose pliers to pull it the rest of the way out. Once its out use the pliers to twist and pull the remaining hollow black piece. Works like a charm, i've done it a few times.
 
#8 ·
send v-leds an email asking them about ones that would be equivalent to our turn signal bulbs - I found they are quite helpful (that's how I figured out what bulb would work in my cargo dome light with flashlight)
 
#12 ·
If you go this route, please post pictures of "before & after". I am interested in this option. Alsdo advise on the low amp draw and the flasher issue that Tyler mentions. I have read about this on one of those LED vending sites as well. Be interesting to see how the Patrtiot reacts.
 
#13 ·
Well,

I ordered these:

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Parking-Light-LED/White-LED/V-LEDS-HID-WHITE-14-M-p5682764.html

and these for the all in one Patriot stop, flash

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/...Exterior-LED/Brake-Light-LED/Red-LED/V-LEDS-RED-SPECIAL-TAILBRAKE-p5168711.html

I am gonna try to find an electronic flasher unit at the LPS here, and if I can't, then I'll have to resistor the turns.

I went all L.E.D. on the interior and am VERY PLEASED with the quality, hi-power and drop in fit of the smt units from V-LED'S!

They pack the highest power led's I've seen, and are ic integrated, not resistor, so they can take dirty input power.

Thanks for the help, All (and the pics) that helped Me determine how to get the lamp covers off. Pretty easy when You know how, huh?

Will keep You posted and try to provide pics of one led rear light and one standard to compare and see what Y'all think.

Gary
 
#14 ·
I just added "cool white" LED's for the interior (2 map, rear seat dome, and cargo), reverse lights, and for the rear license plate. I used superbrightleds.com they cost me $34 for all of those replacements, a total of 7 bulbs and that included the shipping! I ordered them on Sunday and got them on Thursday. The are very bright, great quality.
 
#15 ·
If you look at real led lights, you'll see they mount the leds right at the lense. All of the 3157 leds I've tried in stock light assemblies had nowheres near the intensity of the standard incandescant bulb. The "space station" styles, and the "backfiring" styles made no difference. As for backup lights, the color temp is different than an incandescant, and it takes a while to get used to it. We had some very intense led b/u lights on fire apparatus, and found they also became challenging when using a back up camera.