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Challenger wheel swap

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#1 · (Edited)
Buddy of mine at work has a set of 2010 Challenger wheels and tires P225/60/R18 that I may put on my 2010 2×4 Patriot Sport. I test fitted one on the front, no rubbing with normal driving, about an inch of clearance all the way around. I'll need to change the lug nuts as the Jeep parts are not long enough for proper torque tightness. Wondering if I will have rubbing on bumps while turning. Looks nice though. Thoughts? Also, he is only going to charge me 80 bucks for the set!
 

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#2 ·
Looks...a little off for the vehicle, and really cool at the same time. Make sure all four corners are the same size though. Even without the AWD system, I wouldn't recommend taking the risk in a newer vehicle. Helps with rotation too. Maybe at least get Jeep center caps, if there's any that will fit. Also might wanna check this site https://tiresize.com/comparison/ to see how far off your speedometer and odometer will be, and decide if you want them to be reading at all wrong or if you wanna get them recalibrated....or if that makes the change at all not worth it. But I think most independent mechanics or even maybe a dealership should be able to reprogram for the new size, even though I'm not sure what cost would be associated with it.
 
#3 ·
Looks...a little off for the vehicle, and really cool at the same time. Make sure all four corners are the same size though. Even without the AWD system, I wouldn't recommend taking the risk in a newer vehicle. Helps with rotation too. Maybe at least get Jeep center caps, if there's any that will fit. Also might wanna check this site https://tiresize.com/comparison/

to see how far off your speedometer and odometer will be, and decide if you want them to be reading at all wrong or if you wanna get them recalibrated....or if that makes the change at all not worth it. But I think most independent mechanics or even maybe a dealership should be able to reprogram for the new size, even though I'm not sure what cost would be associated with it.
All tires are of identical size. As for the speedometer, I checked and it would be 68.5 mph when it reads 65. At 80 bucks for the set you can't go wrong.
 
#6 ·
Birds of a feather....I too pack a CDL, and am signing onto a new company this week. Though I'm still trying to get my Patriot set up for oversized load escort. Already got everything but an overhead sign and enough gas/food money for like 3-5 weeks. A few more traffic cones and some spare fluids couldn't hurt either.
 
#7 ·
Don't use them. 71.5mm center hub size on them, your center hub is 67.1mm basically the lug nuts are supporting all the weight and you will probably have a wheel snap off. Further more its a 115mm bolt pattern not 114.3mm Yes a small difference BUT wheels aren't something to mess around with. Get some proper wheels and do it right and safe
 
#10 ·
Not sure if you are joking about the hub sizes. The hub doesn't support the vehicle, and the lug nuts don't support all the weight either. The lug nuts and stud's function is to create clamping force. And of course it's extremely common that aftermarket wheels have center bore sizes larger than needed for a specific vehicle - aluminum or plastic 'centering rings' may be used because, again, they don't support the vehicle and don't need to be steel.
Totally agree that incorrect bolt pattern is unsafe. 115 vs 114.3 (assuming its actually different, not just rounded up) would bolt up I expect and would seem mostly ok, but each lug nut would be slightly off center to the wheel's holes. The nuts wouldn't be seated properly and would tend to loosen over time.
 
#8 ·
Your wheels are the one thing you absolutely do not screw around with. They can mess up your mileage, speed, and get you in trouble with the law or be used against you as evidence in an accident due to your wheel breaking or simply being improper enough to cause legitimate danger. Insurance companies will go after you for that sort of thing, if they can make a case for it. Leave it stock or within acceptable OEM parameters for your vehicle.
 
#11 ·
Some tire shops will actually sell 5x115 rims to a customer with a 5x114.3 car (I used to work the sales desk at a supplier). While I don't agree with selling the wrong wheels to customers I'm actually going to run some 17" charger wheels for the summer because I got a wicked deal on them and they have the specs I want (slightly lower offset and still only 7" wide).

Just make sure you buy 71.6-67.1 hub rings if you're going to use them and recheck the torque multiple times after installing them

 
#16 ·
Take it from me. An old hotrodder. Your Jeep will be fine with these wheels. Don't let the guys scare you. It's all bull crap. Jesus what a bunch of babies we've become.