Canadian MPG #'s?




Dont know if its changed,
But believe EPA calculates MPG's #'s
by taking Manufacturers estimate of 70 mpg,
Do their own Estimate of 10 mpg, then they toss a coin and decide on 28 mpg's,
canadians may have a different system for calculating MPG's than by relying on US coin toss calculation method

 

Nah, it's gotten a lot better in recent years-check Fueleconomy.gov.

 

Ok... so... according to this site my Pat uses about 14.9 barrels of gas a year. Can I pre-pay for them and therefore secure my gas pricing???

What a nice thought thought... (wakes up!)

So, it states that my Pat should do like 21 MPG city. I am at 21.7 right now. Not bad.

 

They must get all those magic 'mileage boosters' in them when they cross the border. Chips, hydrogen, turbulence creators, magic additions, all that crap.

No, seriously though, I know why it is-American EPA figures require real-world testing. A bunch of guys with computers have to drive it around for a while taking measurements. Canadian figures, however, consist of putting it in a wind tunnel on a dyno and measuring what it is hypothetically could do in the absolute ideal conditions. I mean, the Patriot is no gas hog, but I'm pretty sure that it'd need a hill and a tailwind to get 40 MPG.

I think its the GST that creates the "magic mileage" when it crosses the border. It adds to the cost, so why not to the MPG? LOL

 

since we keep them parked in igloos overnight, the fuel is colder, thus more efficient.

 

mp,

be aware there are three 4x4 Patriot transmissions - 5speed, CVT, and CVT2L and two engines 2.0L (2x4 only) and 2.4L. Make sure you're comparing apples to apples.

 

It's actually the result of the Coriolis Effect. The US is closer to the equator and thus going around faster than Canada. This puts a reverse spin on the fuel as it goes into the engine which lowers the fuel economy.

 

At the 49th parallel and higher, it doesn't take a Jeep Patriot nearly as much gas to go around the world as it does a Jeep Patriot traveling around the world along the Tropic of Cancer. That could explain the difference between the Canadian and U.S. numbers.

Okay, okay, maybe the oceans are a bit of challenge; it's not a perfect comparison.

I will go back to sleep now.

 

any chance that it has to do partially with the fact that an american gallon and a canadian gallon are two different sizes?? i believe an american gallon is 3.78 litres, while a canadian gallon is 4.56 litres. that would probably account for the difference in the mpg between the two countries.
by my calculations, 28 mpg using american gallons, roughly converts to 34 mpg using canadian (imperial) gallons.

 

Yep, that should explain the difference Imperial/US gal.
Can't understand why so many measurement units, guess it's like money.
The amount counts, the price does too. So from one international system to another...big variation in numbers

 

That could be it, although nobody in Canada actually uses the Canadian gallon standard-we default to the American one.

 

I know no one in Canada (at least down here in Ontario) that uses the American Gallon for anything. It is understood that when a gallon is talked about that it is the Imperial Gallon. I work in an industry where units of volume are used very frequently and everything we do/use/talk about is either in Litres or Imperial Gallons.

I've always calculated my mpg in Imperial Gallons as I had always assumed that the stickers on the new vehicles here were quoting the mpg in Imperial Gallons.

Am I wrong? Anyone?

 

actually, I use L/100 km.

 

I think the Canadian Gallon is the Same as a British Imp. Gallon !! ( Shades of old Empire)

 

You are correct, in my intake thread I posted the following mileage:

9.2L/100kms = 25.29 MPG US = 30.7 Imperial MPG *Best MPG since ownership*

Before my intake I was getting 11L/100kms = 21.38 MPG US = 25.68 Imperial


My Jeep FDII is rated on the window stick at 27 City and 30 Highway


After I learned the CVT and put the intake on i'm right around the 9.5-10.5 L/100kms range, and this is with my big heavy tires too


This is my first vehicle that seemed to get the mileage as advertised on the window sticker (I know most never even get close)

 

well I suppose I could admit i'm a pretty insane driver when it comes to economy, I watch traffic patterns ahead and can coast and glide in rhythm to the lights (within reason) I also use the engine braking of the cvt alot.

While accelerating I try not to go above 2000rpm and generally just a very smooth transition while driving.

Heres how I calculate my mileage, I usually get around 410-430 kms per tank of gas and fill up roughly around the same time, which is around 43"ish liters

Liters 43 / KMS 415 travelled = .103 X 100 = 10.3L/100kms

I'm not so good at math, but I think that is correct, above calculation was just an example.

 

looks like gas mileage from the diesel

 

Imperial vs US gal

Yes, the US gal is 3.785 litres and the imperial is 4.546 Litres, also the quart is different (32 US ounces vs 40 Imp ounces) and the ounces are different (about 5 %). But wherever you live a litre is a litre is a litre. Thank God for the metric system, so much simpler !!!

In Canada, we never use the US gal, we use mainly litre and sometimes Imp gal (which is the UK gal).

btw, my Patriot 5 speed 2wd will do 38 mpg (imp gal) or 32mpg (US gal) or 7.3 l/100km on the highway at 110 km/h or 68 mph. This was confirmed on two 5000 km trip where I averaged 36-37 mpg.

:blah:

 

Lethbridge is 40 mins from the mountains..............I'm only in SK temporarily The mileage i'm getting has been consistent throughout my ownership.

I should also mention 80% of the time i'm calculating this mileage its from city driving, how many big bills are in the middle of cities:banana:


Not to hi-jack the thread, Petebug how did those new tires and wheel spacers work out.

 

The US was going to go metric "Metric Conversion act of 1975" (amongst other references)

All of us of a certain age have to talk in both measures because our kids only know metric. But it is often hilarious when newscasters have to "metricize" stories from abroad.

Canadian football is still played on 110 yard field.

The biggest problem is trying to find a pub that will actually serve you a PINT when you order one. "That would be 20 ounces, young lady!!"

 

Mention of EVIC in some of the above posts, leads me to ask this question re the EVIC and the setting which displays your current gas mileage /( or in Canada, litres per 100 kms)

I reset mine when I fill up. When driving away, the readings change very rapidly, obviously, as the "computer" calculates your average "mileage". However, after a day or so, without re-setting the EVIC display, changes in the display appear to be almost 'frozen" and little change is shown in the "average" consumption, even though some distances are covered.
I have got into the habit now, of just re-setting the display before any kind of a trip and not bother with "around town driving" as for that, the display rarely changes....

What is the correct procedure for the use of that EVIC fuel mileage display/setting..?????????
Thanks..