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I have found that if you take a towel, fold it in half and roll it into a log, then place that on top of the arm rest, you won't get those sore elbows. Plus, you have a towel for those unexpected moments,,, Oh, not everyone has two, two and a half year old grand daughters!
 
You guys should have all just bought standards. I don't think I have ever used the arm rest on the door. The only place my left arm rests is on the top of the door panel which isn't too soft but doesn't bother me. The center consol doesn't bother me either but I will still take a look at the 09's and see if I like them better and if it would be worth purchasing any of the interior components.
 
soft arm rest - nice but...

Nice that Jeep acted on all the arm rest complaints. I wish they would have channeled their effort to the absence of CRD engine in N.America.

A little off topic: I don't really understand why the complaints about the hard plastic arm rest in the first place for the driver? The passengers may want soft arm rests.

From the old school of driving, I always keep both hands on the wheel, except when shifting gears. So the elbows are far from the arm rests anyway.

Yes I do see many drivers control the steering wheel with one hand or one finger. It's a cool looking habit, but unsafe for many obvious reasons. Thus a elbow is parked at the arm rest or hanging out of the window ledge. A cool relax posture. Candidly, I sometimes rest one hand on the stick; making me feel like an Indy driver:D.

Seriously, the prevailing thinkings by safety engineers is this. The hands should hold the wheel at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions for maximum countervailing control. Moreover, any other positions are dangerous, especially for guys.

Placing a hand at the 12 o'clock could result in smashing your face with your loose fist when the front airbag explodes at 300 km/hr (183 mph). Similarly, holding the wheel at 6 o'clock will result in your loose fist smashing your crotch area at 300 klic/hr. You will gain several octaves, if you survive the accident;) Hard arm rest is not an issue. my 2 cents.
 
The only 'real' problem i ever had with the 'armrest' debacle is that i use the window-sill for my elbow while driving on the freeway.. not so fun when i take my arm down tho; every now and then i'll hit the funny bone on the door-lock-stick-thing.. a very technical term, i know. lol
 
Those pics were posted in another thread and they look to be a photoshop more than anything else. IMO, the rounded vents don't fit the boxy shape of the Patriot. Padded armrests and console might be a nice addition, but not if they're compromising the shape of the vehicle.
can you say......COMPASS???

check out the roof line....not Patriot. COMPASS. i know, I OWN ONE! :D
 
Seriously, the prevailing thinkings by safety engineers is this. The hands should hold the wheel at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions for maximum countervailing control. Moreover, any other positions are dangerous, especially for guys.
Sounds like a good idea for in-town driving but there ain't no-way-in-hell I'm going to do that on a long trip. My arms and hands would go numb in no time flat that way. With that said..I WOULD like a softer arm rest because I do use it on highway driving.
BTW, it used to be the 10 and 2 position, if I recall my drivers education from a century ago..:p No clue if that has changed or not to be honest with you.

Also, if your airbags deploy, it's almost a certainty that you'll get hurt by them no matter what. They are designed to help you survive, but they aren't going to do that and still be cushy feeling. Bank on the worlds largest headache and various other body bruises if you survive an accident w/deployment.
 
The only 'real' problem i ever had with the 'armrest' debacle is that i use the window-sill for my elbow while driving on the freeway.. not so fun when i take my arm down tho; every now and then i'll hit the funny bone on the door-lock-stick-thing.. a very technical term, i know. lol
Funny bone.

I'm sure that's in the Grey's Anatomy books!! :D:D:D
 
Randoo-N-CJ Yep they used to teach us the 10 & 2 o'clock positions in the distant past before the frontal airbag mandate. They now figure that we can do a two fisted punch in our own kisser in additional to the other lesser trauma upon steering wheel airbag deployment.

They said that the revised 3 & 9 o'clock is least self inflicting, by forcing our hands apart to the sides; maybe we'll slap the passenger's face instead;)
 
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