OK, time to find out how many of our members are actually Compass owners now.
So, take the poll and watch out for hanging chads (or freds or johns).
So, take the poll and watch out for hanging chads (or freds or johns).
Are you a Compass Owner?
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repost.....my bad
farout,
My 08 Compass 4x4s with the CVTII drive quite nicely and gets 25+mpg. I have a bit over 8K absolutely trouble free miles on it so far. In my case however I have a really good local Jeep dealer and the lifetime powertrain warranty.
I do understand where you are coming from however. I just did the same thing with an 07 Hyundai. Right now, as far as I am concerned, Hyundai = P.O.S. Obviously it can't be true of all of their cars but it will be a long time before I ever consider one again...
My 08 Compass 4x4s with the CVTII drive quite nicely and gets 25+mpg. I have a bit over 8K absolutely trouble free miles on it so far. In my case however I have a really good local Jeep dealer and the lifetime powertrain warranty.
I do understand where you are coming from however. I just did the same thing with an 07 Hyundai. Right now, as far as I am concerned, Hyundai = P.O.S. Obviously it can't be true of all of their cars but it will be a long time before I ever consider one again...
Just purchased a new 2008 compass. Day two of ownership we took a 1500 mile trip in her. My wife named the Compass "Pumkin" due to the orange color. We were used to the CVT transmission since that is what our 2003 Mini Cooper has. We recorded 24.5 mpg on our trip. The compass was loaded with four adults and the back was stuffed with luggage. Not to bad we thought.
This isour first post in the forums and we look foreword to reading everyones thoughts.
Best Regards
Ron & Laurie
This isour first post in the forums and we look foreword to reading everyones thoughts.
Best Regards
Ron & Laurie
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·Actually they are the same vehicle built in the plant, by the same people, with basically the same parts, so overall one is not going to be better than the other, you just got a bad example, unfortunatly that happens with any vehicle.
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yes and no......
YES, they're built on the same platform, share the same powertrain, but that's about it. there are a lot of different design aspects and flaws to take into consideration, such as water leaks and vibrating hoods. if they are the 'same', then why not ANY complaints of water leaking through the dome lights on the Compass'? why not complaints of the Compass' hood 'flapping'?
NO, not the same!
i'm with YOU, "Red_Rover".....the Compass IS a better vehicle
(but i like the looks of the Patriot better.......
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um, you DID know that the CHRYSLER PACIFICA HAS BEEN DROPPED FROM THE 2009 CHRYSLER LINEUP? but oddly enough there is no word on the Compass as of yet. my guess is that it will still be here until Chrysler LLC can replace it with something that gets 'like' fuel mileage. they can't afford to lose one of their higher mileage models right now, especially with the intro of the Dodge Challenger SRT. if anything, i expect them to make MORE variants of the "PM" and "MK" platforms.I traded it in on a Chrysler Pacifica Touring AWD that gets an honest 22 to 25 mpg and rides so nice:Racing:
The Compass is no JEEP it's a Caliber in more expensive add ons:smiley_thumbs_up: But after this year the Compass might just be a collectors car....Jeep?:BLAM:
Thanks for allowing me to spout off about my huge loss from $23,750. to $15,900 in trade in
R.I.P. Chrysler Pacifica, we hardly knew yel!!! maybe you can start your OWN "Mopar Museum", "farout"???
j/k of course......
yes and no......
YES, they're built on the same platform, share the same powertrain, but that's about it. there are a lot of different design aspects and flaws to take into consideration, such as water leaks and vibrating hoods. if they are the 'same', then why not ANY complaints of water leaking through the dome lights on the Compass'? why not complaints of the Compass' hood 'flapping'?
NO, not the same!
i'm with YOU, "Red_Rover".....the Compass IS a better vehicle
(but i like the looks of the Patriot better.......
Actually same engines, drivetrains, drive systems, share the 17 inch wheel design, interiors are EXACTLY the same. Also keep in mind we have a MUCH MUCH smaller sample of compasses here to compare and they are making kess than half as many compasses each month as Patriots, so problems are not going to be as pronounced and we, by the nature of that beast, will not have as many vehicles to compare. The flapping hood and leaks seem to be an assembly issue, by the same people that assemble both vehicles. They share far FAR more than they don't, heck the only things they don't share are looks, the Patriot doesn't get the Compasses 18 inch rims, and you can;'t get a trailrated compass. The most worrisome things are shared between both vehicles, engine, drivetrains, transmissions, eyc, the things that can get you home or keep you stranded. I am at 3k miles, no flapping hood and no leaks, only real issues are the passenger side speaker and a missing center cap (2 things I am sure that are shared between the 2 wince the Compass offers the same 17 inch rims and I am sure the base stereos are shared). Anywho I like em both and around here you do see quite a few more compasses, but lately both are totally put to shame by Calibers (Lord I saw at least 10-15 different Calibers on the way home from camping :wow
.I think this is a bad time for Chrysler to be dropping a crossover that gets decent mileage, and they only started offering the 4.0/6 speed in what, 07??? I was actually surprised the one time I sit in a Pacifica, it was VERY comfy and the interior was a beauty! I can't believe they never sold better. They were origionally supposed to replace it with a version of the Journey, then they dropped that. IMHO, they may want to reconsider that if they haven't already. Give it Chrysler looks, a high end Pacifica style interior, and give it the 3.5/6 speed auto as standard and the 4.0 as an option, of course by the time it would come out, the MUCH BETTER pheonix engines would be out and they are better eninges anyways.um, you DID know that the CHRYSLER PACIFICA HAS BEEN DROPPED FROM THE 2009 CHRYSLER LINEUP? but oddly enough there is no word on the Compass as of yet. my guess is that it will still be here until Chrysler LLC can replace it with something that gets 'like' fuel mileage. they can't afford to lose one of their higher mileage models right now, especially with the intro of the Dodge Challenger SRT. if anything, i expect them to make MORE variants of the "PM" and "MK" platforms.
R.I.P. Chrysler Pacifica, we hardly knew yel!!! maybe you can start your OWN "Mopar Museum", "farout"???
j/k of course......
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The Compass is like "New Coke" Back in the 80's when Coke made the switch from sugar to High Fructose Corn Syrup, they did a big cover up with "new Coke". They changed the formula of Coke and did a big marketing campaign. Then they came around with Classic Coke 3 months later to quell the uproar. Look at the Compass as New Coke and the PAtriot as Classic Coke (Cherokee). HOWEVER.....the sales of "new Coke" were high enough to leave it on the market for as many as 10 years, it is still sold overseas as Coke 2. This could well be the same for the Compass. Enough buyers prefer the Compass styling to make it worth producing. There is no guarantee, a would be Compass buyer, unable to purchase a Compass will buy a Patriot. They may buy a Vibe, Saturn, or some other more rounded AWD vehicle. That is not what Jeep wants.
I've talked to many people that would only consider the Compass, the Patriot is too boxie for them and they just don't like it. Others have felt just the oposite. If jeep wanted to maintain it's "rugged 4 WD image" then why do they bother to build 2WD versions of everything except the Wrangler? Even the Wrangler Unlimited is available in a 2x4 version.
Will the Compass go the way of the Jeepster? Anybody know where I can get a '48-50 Jeepster for cheap? I'd have it.
Will the Compass go the way of the Jeepster? Anybody know where I can get a '48-50 Jeepster for cheap? I'd have it.
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Not a good one. Jeepster and cheap are not usually in the same sentance.
I think the trap Jeep got (gets) into is offering cars that can't be really tough. Even the 48 Jeepster could be built into a 4x4 by a motivated owner with some wagon parts. In the old days they built a tough capable 4x4 vehicle and offered a 4x2 version. That is no longer the case. Jeep trying to pioneer 4x4 IFS in the 1963 Wagoneer was a dismal failure. A trajic mistake they did not repete for decades. You can't tell me that they couldn't keep up the good mileage in the Patriot and still offer a straight axle for those who want to lift and modify. There is no reason all Jeeps couldn't be offered in IFS 4x2 or AWD and 4x4 versions with straight axles all around. This would keep sales numbers up and the brand loyal happy.
These new owners bought into a real mess left by Daimler watering down the traditional Chrysler brands, not understanding the passion an American car company is really all about. In Jeep's case the evil bastardizations started with Renault. Give these new guys a few years. They seem to be making a real effort to gather data from product users. Let's wait and see how they use it.
Wishful thinking on my part but you never know when you might run into the "Hemi in a barn" scenario.
That's the plan.
The only defense that I can offer on their behalf is the weight saving & mpg that goes with it and having an assembly plant that could be easily changed with robotics to offer new products. I'd have to say that the sales of the PMs and MK s have been a success in that respect.
One thing to consider that is that the big 3 are in trouble right now, they have limited funds annd are basically being forced to work with what they have. Changing th MK to support a live axle suspension or doing a whole new platform to support it would be big $$$$$ that they don't have right now, BUT the Compass and Patriot are going to play a large role in keeping Jeep afloat in the here and now until they are in a better financial situation, they also help with the new corporate fuel mile regs that I be,lieve, are supposed to start taking effect in 2010 and be in full swing by 2020.
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As far as government regulations, it is a whole different ball game now. No more fast and loose, design and build autos. (and that is sad)
However, as far as cash poor and struggleing to survive, .....well, .....er, ....um, ....ahemmm.......Chrysler better get in touch with the AMC roots they gained in the take over.
Noboby ever played that hand better except maybe the Milwaukee Road RR.
How investor driven is the new Chrysler? Will investors tollerate allowing ideas to manifest and grow to fruition? Or will they stupidly demand immediate returns and drive Chrysler out of business? I see this as the main difference over the past 25 years in American corporations. Impatient, selfish and short sighted investors.
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it wouldn't matter if ANY manufacturer made a 4X4 based on a FWD platform, whether it be a Patriot, Compass or a Chevy Cavalier. NONE of them can really be "TOUGH"!
yea, we can make them 'look' like a "TOUGH" 4X4, but are they really? no, but i don't care. i don't NEED a "TOUGH" 4X4, just one that will get me through anything that Indiana winters can throw at me and still get me decent mileage.
my Compass does both........with a little help of course from an RRO Kit and BFG Mud Terrains! :smiley_thumbs_up:
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