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#21 ·
Be sure to post your pics in the Off-Road Pics thread under the General Discussion topic. Can't wait to see some other Patriot action!

Oh, to answer your question; yeah, I got mountains, come on out!
 
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#23 ·
The Labor Day ride was a bust, as I posted on that thread. I also posted on your other thread how to upload photos, hope that helps. Come on out any time! I still need to get to FL sometime. My friend's grandpa owns a resort in Ft Myers Beach.
 
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#24 ·
Hey AMCNUT

AMCNUT said:
I finally took the Patriot off-roading today for the first time. This vehicle is most certainly worthy to be called a JEEP and to carry the TRAIL RATED badge! I met up with a great group of JEEP owners from the Mid-Florida Jeep Club. We headed off to Hardrock Cycle Park in Ocala, FL. It's an old quarry with many STEEP hills. I had the only Pat in the group and none of them had seen one in action (including myself). They all had TJ's, a few heavily modified, most lifted w/ bigger tires. I had the only stock JEEP there. We all became increasingly impressed with the abilities of the PAT. As the climbs and descents got steeper the PAT rose to every challange I made evey hill on the first try. I simply pointed the pat at the hill and floored it till I crested the top. The PAT never got stuck, or hung up. I used the skid plates to their fullest potential. This was a great experience and I think the Pat made some new fans. This JEEP is awesome! I have some video's and pic's and as soon as i figure out how to post them I will. So my fellow Patriot owners hold your heads high you own a TRUE JEEP capable of some very impressive feats!!!!!
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Would I be able to take a 4x4 but NOT trail rated to the Hardrock place? With out the skid plates, is it THAT bad?

Have to go to New Port Richey tomorrow.

May stop there?
 
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#25 ·
Alex
Sorry I didnt read your post before you headed south. My trail rated pat has 1in. more clearance than the standard 4x4. I scraped the undercoating off of the frame rails, dented the middle frame rail where the drive shaft bushing bracket mounts (didnt see a rock as I crested the hill) and had to replace the emissions evaporator canister located beside the muffler (I think it got hit bouncing over the fallen trees). The frame rail damage was cosmetic, the dealer had us get it checked out at a local body shop. The canister needs a skid plate but I'll be a little more careful the next time as it isnt covered under warranty. If you chose to go be sure to have a tow buddy in case you get high centered especially on the trees. Check out my photos in the gallary. Your Pat could probably make the climbs but the problem is ground clearance. With out skid plates or tow hooks you might want to be very very careful. It just might be your oil pan that you damage instead of the frame rail. Quite frankly I wouldn't go without a Wrangler 4X4 with me and certainly not alone.
 
#26 ·
I got a few pics on my cell phone that I have to put on my computer still, but I took my 4x4 non-trail rated down a small trail and it ran great. We went fishing last weekend here in Texas, and all of my friends have cars, so of course I was the only person who had enough room for our fishing gear, and the only 4x4 vehicle. The trail I went down was about 50 yards long and had huge divets from other 4x4 trucks that had been back there. The Pat rode great down the trail and back up. On the way down though my friend got out to spot me and said my tailpipe came about an inch from hitting the hardened clay ground in one of the divets. I backed the jeep to the waterfront and we used the fold down speakers to listen to some music while we fished. On the way up the trail, I took a side turn up some pretty loose gravel, and the jeep handled great. All my friends are really jealous, and my one friend insists he is gonna buy one in the next few months. I love it, way better than my 01 jetta I traded in.
 
#27 ·
I am still on my first oil change and have the FDII and I get about 22 MPG. And yeah I wish it had a bigger fuel tank the 13.5 makes for lots of fill-ups. My Wrangler has a 20 Gal and half the MPG and seems like I don't fill it up as often. I like to fill up when it's at about 1/2, you know so if you just want to get in and for a trip you are prepared.
 
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#29 ·
DJ XS said:
At first were you getting way less? I am kind of concerned because although I just filled it up and have gone 109 miles I am reaching half a tank. This is not indicative of what it should get. <snip> I am wondering what you or any other person with 4x4 FDII w/Trail Rated gets per tank.
P.S I only have 400 miles on it so far, but have only put on 100 of them. They had to bring in the patriot from out of town and drove it down.
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I've got almost the same number of miles on my Trail Rated, and am doing roughly similar to you. I got 14mpg on my first tank. Now I'm up to around 16mpg. I'm quite skeptical I'm going to ever hit 21mpg, but with the breaking in and the upcoming warmer weather I have my fingers crossed.
 
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#30 ·
TMan said:
I've got almost the same number of miles on my Trail Rated, and am doing roughly similar to you. I got 14mpg on my first tank. Now I'm up to around 16mpg. I'm quite skeptical I'm going to ever hit 21mpg, but with the breaking in and the upcoming warmer weather I have my fingers crossed.
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I am getting 16 to 18mpg with my 07 FDII Trail Rated Limited. Mileage was much better in the warmer weather. On long highway trips on 2 lane blacktops, I can get 22mpg. Combined driving I am getting 19mpg. I tend to have a heavy foot when doing my daily commute on the highway portion. Traffic volume in city doesn't help either. My engine revs around 2900 at 100kmh and 3000 at 120kmh. It revs around 2200 at 90kmh when there is no stress (hill ascent) on the engine. I take it much slower when on driving vacations. That's when I see the better mpg.
 
#31 ·
quasimodem51 said:
I am getting 16 to 18mpg with my 07 FDII Trail Rated Limited. <snip> My engine revs around 2900 at 100kmh and 3000 at 120kmh. It revs around 2200 at 90kmh when there is no stress (hill ascent) on the engine. I take it much slower when on driving vacations. That's when I see the better mpg.
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I was panicking a little at first when I only got the 14mpg on my first tank. I never would have imagined that the cold weather would have such a large effect on fuel efficiency. But the increase in temperatures from -30 to -15 seemed to improve it by the 2mpg. If it gets up to 18mpg after the break-in and warmer weather I'll be happy, as I think that is about all I could expect in Winnipeg given this city's horribly timed lights.

While it probably varies a lot from vehicle to vehicle, have you noticed a certain highway speed where the fuel efficiency significantly declines? Given your numbers above I would assume 90kmh.
 
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#35 ·
Dear all,

I would like to share with all of you what is the situation of the Patriot in Europe. First of all, declare that I was a potential customer of a Pat due to I always dreamed with having a Jeep, and I thought that now was the moment for having one.

In Europe, the Patriot only has one engine, an awesome 2.0 L diesel, CRD, from Volkswagen with declared 140 hp, 155 hp real. This is the same engine for the Compass, Caliber diesel, Avenger diesel and of course, many Audi, VW and others in Europe. The fuel consumpsion of this engine is very good (5.5-6.7-8.8 liters/100 km, extraurban-mixed-urban).

Unfortunately, the Patriot in Europe has been released in just ONE version, having the Freedom Drive I and no off-road package option available. The guys of Jeep has ruined this model here because nobody is interested on it, the housewifes prefer to buy the Compass for carrying their babys to the school, the main utility of a SUV as everybody knows. Thus, here the Patriot is just a very limited SUV, and very expensive, 22500 euros in Spain (31300 $).

Very lucky all of you having a Pat Trail Rated (FD II + off road package) due to really this version can be considered as a real 4x4, not like the girly version delivered in Europe, useless at all under off-road conditions. Hope I could see at any time a Patriot CRD Trail Rated before I died.

Just before leaving, is it true that Fiat is going to provide the engines for many jeeps next year onwards, or is just for ruining the company in Europe???, nooooooooooooooooo.......!!!!

Thanks and enjoy your Pats
 
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#36 ·
I was trying to start a new thread on the down hill crawl, but it wouldn't let me for some reason, so thought I'd do it here, sorry.

I was wondering about other's experience with the down hill crawl. There's a lot of noise in the front when I do this, so wondering if that's normal or not?

Also the book says you can turn that off, but that doesn;t seem to work for me. I can take it out of the LOW Offroad gear through, and then the down hill crawl doesn't work, but that's all I've found to do.

Any thoughts?
 
#37 ·
noise is part of it

dixiedawg said:
I was trying to start a new thread on the down hill crawl, but it wouldn't let me for some reason, so thought I'd do it here, sorry.

I was wondering about other's experience with the down hill crawl. There's a lot of noise in the front when I do this, so wondering if that's normal or not?

Also the book says you can turn that off, but that doesn;t seem to work for me. I can take it out of the LOW Offroad gear through, and then the down hill crawl doesn't work, but that's all I've found to do.

Any thoughts?
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yes that is normal as brakes engage/disengage
 
#39 ·
I live "off road",today we had enough rain to make our roads into slip 'n slides,along with a couple of deep water holes.I wanted to see how Silver would do so I took the "old road" on the south,went through a good 12" deep waterhole,the bottom of the road is a mud pit & the "road" itself has a pronounced crown from the water eating it away.
Hit the 4WD switch & turned the ESP 1/2 off,it scurried it's way up that 200 yards of muck just fine,if a little sideways sometimes.
 
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#40 ·
I'm with ya, I sort of live off road too. The photo in my sig is from last November at the bottom of my driveway. But due to work I have another place I stay during the week, that is not off road. Part of the road to my place is a section of the Potter County Snowmobile Trail. Those folks think I'm crazy when they see me on their trail in the Pat.

Any thoughts on why when I follow the instructions in the manual I still can;t turn off the down hill crawl when in 4wd off road gear?

I am getting used to the noise though, still seems odd to me though, but everyone tells me it's normal.
 
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