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Discussion starter · #41 · (Edited)
I have a lift on it's way, but not in any of the pictures. If I was not going to lift it, I would have gone with a 29" tire(roughly speaking). The tires you see are spec'd at 29.5" and 10" section width on 8"" rim.(again, this is roughly speaking as the section width will change with the rim width). They are Medalist brand and I don't anticipate them lasting very long due to the compound they are made of. I'll be lucky if I get 30K, but thats OK for as "sticky" they are!!! Time will tell if they "chunk", hopefully not...........
hvac59
 
#43 ·
mearnest said:
hvac59 could you please post pics of the heat gun work you did? I have just ordered 31" SuperSwamper tires on 16*8" Rockcrawler wheels and will need to do some heat gun work myself!
Thanks!
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i don't think a heat gun will help those 31's clear the front strut spring guard......but that's just my opinion;)

GOOD LUCK!!!
 
#44 ·
31" Superswampers on 16*8.5" Rockcrawler INSTALLED today!

Yes I did ! Do they fit? Kinda! Did they hit the strut tower? NO!! Not even near it! BUT, and you knew that there would be a but ! They hit the unibody weld located at the rear of the front wheel wells! SOB... They looked SWEET:wow: . No I do not have a Picture SORRY! If you dare you could cut that piece out and re-weld it and they would fit! I'm not even that crazy though. Thought you guys would like to know! Getting Rubi wheels tomorrow, and yes I am going to try the Superswampers on them!
 
#46 ·
mearnest said:
Yes I did ! Do they fit? Kinda! Did they hit the strut tower?
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i'm not talking about the 'strut tower', but the spring guard on the strut itself. big difference. there's only so much distance from the axle to the spring guard and since the RR lift (or any other kind of lift kit, spacer, etc) doesn't alter that distance, you can still only put on a 235/65R17 tire. however, you can use a 245/65R17 with modification of the fender splash shields, but even they only leave you about a 1/4" of space between the tire and the spring guard.

i still see no way any 31" tire will fit without increasing the overall length of the front struts. :doh:
 
Discussion starter · #47 · (Edited)
No, I did not try that size tire.To be honest, a 30" would be my preferance, but the tire I'm using is a common availability size. The rim backspacing I am using is 5" also. What is your tire dimmensions and rim backspacing. The spring guard is actually in a picture I've already posted and the outer lip can be bent out of the way by hand! It is only attatched by two small tabs..................(see pic below) Your not going to be in any trouble if you decide to trim that pinch weld, heck, they do it all the time on the Wrangler and Liberty. Just drop the fender liner and you will see what I mean. Last question is what tire are you talking about(Interco makes a few)?
hvac59

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#48 · (Edited)
Jeepster55

You should not post things you know nothing about!! I bolted these wheels on at 4wheel parts in Tampa Fl., if you you or anyone would like to prove you wrong (which you are!) Call 4 wheel parts and ask for Matt or Brian or Eric! If you trim the pinch weld located at the back of the front wheel well there is NO Rubing at all, the tires were not even close to the strut tower spring perch!!! Opinion are like AS*HOLES Jeepster EVERYONE has one!!!! If you don't know what you are talking about don't post. This forum is for ideas and solutions which you are not providing, don't kill peoples dreams.
 
#50 ·
HVAC, Would you recommend 235/70R16 or 245/70R16 with the Moab rims? I have the 16X8 Moab rims and am waiting for RR to get more bushings for thier kits before I order. Now I just need to know which tire/rim combo is best. I have the FWD manual so off-roading isn't my biggest concern, meaning I won't be buying a tire with an aggressive tread pattern. I know you mentioned your tires rubbing slightly at extreme turns so... I know this topic has been beaten to death but I just want to be sure. I plan on running a BFG tire with road tread since they seem to be very durable. I'm cool with taking a heat gun to the well liner but I'd hate to have to do more customizing even with the RR kit. Thanks.
 
#51 ·
HVAC

Put on the Moab's with the Goodyear 245/75/16's today! SAME THING!!!! Tire hits the pinch weld!!! Once again NO issue with the strut spring perch, or what ever you call it! Next teusday I am bending that pesky pinch weld flat.
 
#52 ·
Mearnest. I'm so bummed out that I didn't get the 245/75/16 tires that were on the rims I bought! I assumed they wouldn't fit. If the only issue is the pinch weld than as you said I'd bend it. I'm curious to hear how you make out. I might try to contact the guy I bought my Moab rims from and see if the tires are still available.
 
#53 ·
goya

I am going to knock down the pinch weld on my next day off.(Tuesday) I will let you know how it goes. I may or may not put the wheels on after that, if I do I will post a pic. I am going to have the Moab's powder coated black.
 
#54 ·
Thanks for the update. I'll hold off buying the 245/75/16 tires until I hear/see what you've found out. I've also thought about powder coating my Moab wheels like the SEMA Patriot but I'll have to wait. My Patriot is silver so the stock Moabs should look okay for now. I'm still waiting for RR to fulfill their backorder of Patriot lifts so I'm not in a hurry to add larger tires, yet.
 
Discussion starter · #55 ·
GOYA and MEARNEST,
flattening out the pinch weld may not be nessacary, I'd wait and see as the plastic liner stick out off of the metal a good 3/4". But if you do, I saw a cool trick with cutting and that is to pack the trimmed out area with black silicone and carefully cover it with extra wide tape. Tarp repair tape worked for me on some other vehicles. it's 2 1/4" black plastic and thick too. It stayed on for a couple of years until I sold the car anyway.
IROC ND's ,,,,, Wonder what the ND stands for? Anyway, Interco has always been generous in sizing, do these have a tred width over 10" ? On another note, most tire companies reduce the tread block spacing as the tire gets less in circumfrence, can you tell if that is the case with these?
hvac59
 
#56 ·
Hvac

I will most definatly have to knock down pinch weld, I will also put silicone on the inside of the weld that will be folded into the body and then paint. I will then Heat and stretch the finder linner, that will be trial and error. Go to ntwonline.com and check out the tires, tons of room between lugs! by far the most agressive tire of this size that I have ever seen! (and I was a tech at an offroads parts shop wen I was younger)
 
#57 ·
This is bad info!

Jeepster55 said:
you can still only put on a 235/65R17 tire. however, you can use a 245/65R17 with modification of the fender splash shields, but even they only leave you about a 1/4" of space between the tire and the spring guard.

i still see no way any 31" tire will fit without increasing the overall length of the front struts. :doh:
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I am currently running 245/75/16's on Moab wheels. 30.7" OAD on these tires and I have a 1/4" between tire and "SPRING GUARD". :doh:
 
#58 ·
Jeepster55 said:
i still see no way any 31" tire will fit without increasing the overall length of the front struts. :doh:
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mearnest said:
I am currently running 245/75/16's on Moab wheels. 30.7" OAD on these tires and I have a 1/4" between tire and "SPRING GUARD". :doh:
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OMG.....thank you so much for proving my point.

your 30.7" TIRES are about as big as you can go, since you stated that you only "have a 1/4" between the tire and the SPRING GUARD".

the difference between a 31.0" tire and 30.7" tire.....".3 inches" AND the last time i checked, 1/4"=.25", CORRECT? :doh:!!! unless that's some kind of 'new math'???? :confused:

P.S. my thought on anyone just bending the spring guard out of the way just to make room of some bigger tires must think they know more about their vehicle than the Jeep engineers themselves who designed it in the first place. it was put there for a reason.....i'm not risking the safety of MY family or damage to MY vehicle because some guy that 'used to work as a tech at a off road shop when he was younger' says i can do it. it's YOUR life, YOU'RE the one taking the risk in YOUR vehicle. think about it, that's all i'm saying.

:rockon: BUT do it 'smart and safe'.
 
#59 ·
I was the one that first mentioned removing or modifying the spring catch and I'll also second Jeepster55's comments on being careful... if you lift one tire as the spring compresses it actually rests on that catch near full compression (ie during offroad or if you hit a pothole or curb) and that catch I talked about modifying or cutting off actually keeps the spring from rubbing your tires. Its not there to catch the spring if it breaks like I originally understood.

Our only opiton to get around this now is hoping a company like Old Man Emu (OME) will make an aftermarket spring that is uniform in diameter from top to bottom that way we can cut off that spring catch. With out the spring being replaced I wouldn't attempt cutting or modifying it. But thats just my opinion and I am the one that brought it up and decided to investigate it further.
 
Discussion starter · #60 ·
Does anyone have a clear idea as to what the spring guard actually does? It seems as if we are "mystifying" it's purpose! It's function is to prevent spring contact with the tire in the event that the springs becomes "unseated". For a spring to become unseated, it would be neccasary to have had a profound hit on the front end and only a idiot would not want to stop and inspect the vehicle after such a thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, there I go using logic, i suppose there has been individuals who chose to keep on as if nothing has happened and pop a tire when the spring burns thru the inner side wall. As for why there is no guard on the inside of the strut is that the spring has its last wrap around the strut down low. It physically can't go inwards.

If one was to reform the guard to a more vertical position, I would say it would remain functional. Although, using a tire large enough to interfere there would bring about more severe clearance problems elsewhere. As in sheetmetal damage when the tire is stuffed!!!!

Anyway, I would not recommend over a 29" tire with 5" backspacing to anyone not wanting the get into further mods to accomodate the clearance issues. Juice just ain't worth the squeeze for most. This is not to say that the MTR's don't give a very nice profile and ratio in looks. They look excellant. I just want to see one stuffed real good. I know how much my 29.5.s have left when stuffed. That would be zero on the plastic and enough to absorb a good hit on the bumpstop, but no more before deforming some metal............
hvac59
 
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