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Jeepster55, There is the possiblity of trimming or reforming the safety spring catch/perch...

i think the only thing that can be done is find a different spring that has the same size coils from top to bottom. another suggestion with the companies that make these lift kits is to make a front strut that is LONGER from the spring guard to the knuckle. add 2" here instead of a spacer at the top and that would give us our additional 2" AND allow us to use a taller tire. BEST OF BOTH WORLDS! :smiley_thumbs_up:
 
Jeepster55 I agree with that too, I meant short term. Struts are cheap and could be replaced. I would bet if enough of us are lifting our MK's this early we will get the attention of the larger lift company's and they will indeed make us longer shocks and struts with corrected mounting angles. But if we don't show interest they won't either.
 
okay does anyone have any suggestions on tires i should get for offroading?
225 or 235/65/R17 (I really like the 17's it came with and don't want to lose them)
http://www.coopertire.com/html/products/tires_lighttruck.aspx?page=discoverer_atr
I ordered these tires in size 235/65/R17, but not yet tested offroadin' ... However, those look good n' agresive, but, wait and see:icon_rolleyes:

I'll get back with this thread after i get back from Lapland (in three week's time:D)
 
The Yokohama Geolander AT-S look pretty aggressive, have good reviews, and are pretty fairly priced at $115 each...but happen to be sold out at TireRack.com.
The Yokohama looks functional; has anyone tried it out in sand? My offroad situation is typically out in the dunes, and I want something a little bit more aggressive so I can get some more traction without having to air down my tires so much.
 
Promised to report about my new tire:http://www.coopertire.com/html/produ...discoverer_atr
How those work in Finnish winter...

Good tires, very sticky, litle noisy but works on snow and slush, rear wheels don't wonder any more when driven through ice roads with "scraped" surface, and allmost the same weight than original tires (215/60-17 Conti premium contact 2) And for jmnation; this product is tested in worlds bigest sand box;-D AUSTRALIA mate!
 
was it rubbing on that ridge inside the wheel well? when? at full radius turns?
you 2wd with no mods? what type of rim? how wide? backspacing?

I'm going to find out if I can fit 255/65/16 on an 8" with a less backspacing .. tht tire will be roughly 29 x 10.



Im going to have them try 255/65/16, 245/60/16 and 245/70/16.

Any chance?
 
keep in mind, the "255", "245", "235" etc...are the WIDTH of the tire, not the height. but as you increase your width and keep the percentage the same (the 60, 65, 70) you will increase the height as well.

ideally, you should only go up maybe one or two sizes in width (say to 235) but increase your percentage (to 70 or 75). this will net you a taller tire, not too wide to rub or negatively affect your gas mileage. something else to keep in mind is that if you have a larger area of rubber meeting the pavement, it will take more HP to turn the wheels and therefore use more gas. keeping the 'footprint' of your tire at a minimum will keep you from dropping your MPG's too much. also, in snow for instance, a taller, narrower tire is better than a wider one, especially on a light vehicle such as the MK's.

i'm seriously looking at a Firestone Destination A/T 235/75R17. just not sure about the height of the tire yet (approx 30.8") on clearance. i also like this tire as it's only about 8-9lbs more than the OEM Goodyear, where as some have put tires on that weigh 50lbs alone. too much added weight for the drivetrain, in my opinion.

but to each his own and if you're willing to pay the price down the road, then more power to ya! :smiley_thumbs_up:
 
ideally, you should only go up maybe one or two sizes in width (say to 235) but increase your percentage (to 70 or 75). this will net you a taller tire, not too wide to rub or negatively affect your gas mileage. something else to keep in mind is that if you have a larger area of rubber meeting the pavement, it will take more HP to turn the wheels and therefore use more gas. keeping the 'footprint' of your tire at a minimum will keep you from dropping your MPG's too much. also, in snow for instance, a taller, narrower tire is better than a wider one, especially on a light vehicle such as the MK's.
Rotational weight hurts fuel economy the most. Larger tires weigh more than stock tires. By larger, that means wider and/or taller. 215/75R17 weigh more than 215/60R17, just like 245/60R17 weigh more than 215/60R17.

Footprint changes with larger tires, but has the same area. If you use a wider tire, the contact patch is widerr, but not as long. Contact patch is a function of vehicle weight and tire size. You didn't the vehicle weight (much) with wider tires. Now, more agressive tread will have more rolling resistance and use more fuel.

Snow, narrower is good to bit down into the snow to get to the ground below. Sand/mud/pavement, wider is better.
 
Just got back from having new bigger tires put on my Riot. I went with 235/65/17 Kelley SafariTrek's turned white letters in. Agressive looking tire for not a lot of money. I was going to go with the Fuzion XTI's (another inexpensive and good looking tire) but they were out of stock in that size in my area. The Kelly's looks great even without the lift kit (I have mine on order but they are saying maybe another week). Thanks to everyone on this site. I have got a lot of information and inspiration. I will post some pics soon.
 
I have the biggest you can fit under a stock patriot (without a lift kit), 235/65-17 and I have no problems with the FD1, so I'd say that's complete hearsay. ;)
I have that size too but not happy. I don't have a lift (yet) and did see someone on Youtube with a beefy tire without a lift. The tire thing is soooo confusing to me!
 
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