The weather up here in Manitoba, Canada has been extremely cold for the past couple of months (-40c with windchill). As such, in the last couple of months, my Patriot has been making noises/grinding sounds (I think from the front end) when turning left or right. Here is the issue. I took it into the dealer last week, and they said the problem was the CV joints and that they ordered a completely new front axle assembly. I was then informed today, that they placed a stop order from the factory (they don't stockpile many parts for the Patriot) because other owners have had the same problem but the various fixes including changing axles has not stopped the noises. They then told me that dealers in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and NW Ontario have informed Chrysler of the problem and they are working on finding out the exact issue with the vehicle. I do know that the noise is not from snow or ice accumulation. I do think it might be the shocks and/or various fluids in the axles. They also said that the vehicle is safe to drive. I have not encountered problems when driving the vehicle other than the annoying sounds. Has anyone else encountered this?
Noise (Grinding) when turning hard right or left
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The weather up here in Manitoba, Canada has been extremely cold for the past couple of months (-40c with windchill). As such, in the last couple of months, my Patriot has been making noises/grinding sounds (I think from the front end) when turning left or right. Here is the issue. I took it into the dealer last week, and they said the problem was the CV joints and that they ordered a completely new front axle assembly. I was then informed today, that they placed a stop order from the factory (they don't stockpile many parts for the Patriot) because other owners have had the same problem but the various fixes including changing axles has not stopped the noises. They then told me that dealers in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and NW Ontario have informed Chrysler of the problem and they are working on finding out the exact issue with the vehicle. I do know that the noise is not from snow or ice accumulation. I do think it might be the shocks and/or various fluids in the axles. They also said that the vehicle is safe to drive. I have not encountered problems when driving the vehicle other than the annoying sounds. Has anyone else encountered this?
Well, that is very similar to what I hear last weekend. I pulled out of the Church parking lot on a hard left and a guy comes around the corner just a-flying on snowy roads (idiot). Well, I got on the gas hard in that left turn on their was a crazy grinding sound like back front knuckles. Problem ... its only two months old. This is something I must keep in mind.
If you can duplicate the noise, try it with the ESP turned all the way off. The ESP does some funny stuff id it thinks the car is about to roll, or is slipping, or needs to control traction. There is a possibility it's geeting confused in a hard turn situation with engine power being applied. The ABS makes a kind of grinding noies when it's fanning the brake.
If the noise goes away when the ESP is off, it may help to determine the cause.
If the noise goes away when the ESP is off, it may help to determine the cause.
That crossed my mind as well. It almost sounded like the ABS system but it happened so fast that I couldn't be sure. It's possible that in the hard turn with hard acceleration that the traction control was braking the left wheel on the inside of the turn to keep it from slipping. It's an idea.
My Patriot makes CV joint clicking type noises under the following conditions: Below 25 degrees, tight left hand turns only. It is not ESP or ABS related, and is easily, consistently, duplicated. It will get worse with wear and age.
Also, the front suspension, probably some bushings, make "rubbery-squeaky-squishy-scrunchy" sounds when the temps are below 25 degrees. The bushing "scrunches" go away after a few miles and bumps. This car is in Alabama, so 99% of the time I don't hear either issue.
Interestingly, the Hemi mod had no effect on either issue...
Also, the front suspension, probably some bushings, make "rubbery-squeaky-squishy-scrunchy" sounds when the temps are below 25 degrees. The bushing "scrunches" go away after a few miles and bumps. This car is in Alabama, so 99% of the time I don't hear either issue.
Interestingly, the Hemi mod had no effect on either issue...
I'm in Winnpeg too and the other day I thot I heard a similar noise but I had the radio turned up and wasn't sure exactly. I'm going to do some driving around with the window down a bit and no radio so that I can listen more carefully...it's not cold out today tho, we'll see if the noise rears it ugly head again.
I'll be making a similar phone call to the dealer if I do hear it today. The parts should be able to withstand extended periods of extreme cold tho.
Please keep us updated if the dealer gets back to you on what they believe it to be and what they will be doing about it.
I'll be making a similar phone call to the dealer if I do hear it today. The parts should be able to withstand extended periods of extreme cold tho.
Please keep us updated if the dealer gets back to you on what they believe it to be and what they will be doing about it.
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I get some noise going over bumps when its cold and Im just starting out. I think its the sway bar bushings and the struts sticking a little. It doesnt seem to affect performance, and it goes away if the temp warms up or its driven a few miles. In the motocross world we would experience this with shock absorbers. We called it "Sticktion". As for the post by USSWASP, that noise is almost certainly the ABS system fanning the rear brake on the inside of the turn to pull you into the direction of the turn. Its a strange sound, and and even stranger sensation. Try duplicating it in an empty, snow covered parking lot. Just crank the wheel over and hit the gas. You can hear and feel it every time. Its the Traction Control System doing its job. Now try it again with the ESP off. You will go into a skid, even with 4x4 locked. It's VERY difficult to put the Pat into a skid on snow with the 4x4 locked and the TCS operative.
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I disagree with this statement, I too hear this "grinding" noise from the front end and its different from the traction control noise (they both have a similar pitch, but the "grinding" is very random where the TC sound is very controlled and constant). On my drive home tonight I hit the gas as I turned on to an icy street and instantly heard the "grinding" noise from the front end. I started to skid and a split second later the TC kicked in with its noise and set me straight.
I have an '09 Patriot and I didn't start hearing this noise until last winter (of course just after my 3-yr factory warranty expired). I don't ever hear it driving straight, only turning while accelerating. I don't hear it in the warm months, so I have come to believe it has to do with the cold weather, but it makes you wonder if something is terribly wrong.
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Its been a long time since i was in a real cold place for driving but I do distinctly remember all kinds of "new" noises every winter when we were in Saskatchewan.
Some of you are in a prolonged deep freeze with colder temps than normal...my long distance Internet advice would be to relax a bit, drive slowly and without drama for the first few miles until stuff gets warmed up/worked loose.
Many, many dissimilar materials underneath our vehicles, all freezing at different temps and to different hardness/brittleness. Always has been noisy driving when it is ultra cold and lets hope that is what you are experiencing.
Some of you are in a prolonged deep freeze with colder temps than normal...my long distance Internet advice would be to relax a bit, drive slowly and without drama for the first few miles until stuff gets warmed up/worked loose.
Many, many dissimilar materials underneath our vehicles, all freezing at different temps and to different hardness/brittleness. Always has been noisy driving when it is ultra cold and lets hope that is what you are experiencing.
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same noise here,only with cold weather,when the temp. rise the noise stop, it's probably do to the ice, i don't worry about it.
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2011 is a Grinder too
My 2011 Patriot (171000km) has developed a similar grinding noise. It has been quite cold for a couple weeks here. Does it for sure when cornering left and hitting the gas. Actually it's quite loud with the windows down. Also does it driving straight down the road. Hit the gas hard and receive in return; a grinding type rattle noise.
Any ideas? Got a local shop to take it for a drive. He thinks the noise is in the Driveline....sounds to me like it's right in front of the column.
My 2011 Patriot (171000km) has developed a similar grinding noise. It has been quite cold for a couple weeks here. Does it for sure when cornering left and hitting the gas. Actually it's quite loud with the windows down. Also does it driving straight down the road. Hit the gas hard and receive in return; a grinding type rattle noise.
Any ideas? Got a local shop to take it for a drive. He thinks the noise is in the Driveline....sounds to me like it's right in front of the column.
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