Comparison CVT2 and CVT2L in low and go 2500 RPM and tell me the MPH reading and tire size if not stock tires.
Comparison CVT2 and CVT2L in low
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Making sure when I do (If it works) the auto stick conversion that I am really in low. I should have ck mine before I started on it. http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4194
Here's a couple of friends reports back to me, I'm going to recheck mine. It doesn't sound right that my 1st is lower than your Low.
EDIT: Strange but true! Here's my speeds @ 2500rpm
1st = 13mph
2nd = 20
3rd = 28
4th = 35
5th = 47
6th = 68
Maybe I've got the FD II final drive in mine! :Racing:
It leads me to think that with just the L the variator is still varying while on the AutoStick it's locked in to the selected gear range.
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this is a 07 patriot 4x4 FD I CVT2.
in "L" its 22-23 MPH at 2500 RPM.
that's with the stock Goodyear Wrangler SR/A 215/65-17 tires.
NOTE: I was on a level stretch and just had enough peddle to keep speed at 2.5k RPM. with mild acceleration the tach went up right away to 3.5k or so before my speed changed. when I floored it I got up to about 60 MPH at 5.5k RPM in Low (and still pulling) but shifted to Drive at that point.
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Re-do just under 15 mph @ 2500rpm in "L", FD1, 29" tires 235/65/17
His speedo was not recaled, factory tires were 215/60-17, speedo too slow by 6.45%.
Actual: 13 - 14 mph
EDIT: Strange but true! Here's my speeds @ 2500rpm
1st = 13mph
2nd = 20
3rd = 28
4th = 35
5th = 47
6th = 68
Maybe I've got the FD II final drive in mine! :Racing:
It leads me to think that with just the L the variator is still varying while on the AutoStick it's locked in to the selected gear range.-----------------------------------------
this is a 07 patriot 4x4 FD I CVT2.
in "L" its 22-23 MPH at 2500 RPM.
that's with the stock Goodyear Wrangler SR/A 215/65-17 tires.
NOTE: I was on a level stretch and just had enough peddle to keep speed at 2.5k RPM. with mild acceleration the tach went up right away to 3.5k or so before my speed changed. when I floored it I got up to about 60 MPH at 5.5k RPM in Low (and still pulling) but shifted to Drive at that point.
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Re-do just under 15 mph @ 2500rpm in "L", FD1, 29" tires 235/65/17
His speedo was not recaled, factory tires were 215/60-17, speedo too slow by 6.45%.
Actual: 13 - 14 mph
Something that I was wondering. Do you feel a "shift" in low or does it feel like it just keeps "pulling". I haven't driven a CVT with out AutoStick since I test drove a Caliber SXT with the 2000cc engine and the FD II Patriot. Maybe I should take another test drive.
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I think you’re asking if it likes an old style automatic Transmission shift…that’s what it feels like to me.
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I don't know how helpful this test is. Goebel1, I am assuming from the other thread your trying to figure out if the first gear in the auto stick you installed is the equivalent to the Low Range gearing you had in the old shifter. The quandary I ran into last night is I've noticed a distinct difference in RPMs from when I'm in just "L" then when I engage the FDII 4wheel drive.
I am going to see if I can post both results for you tonight, but I think knowing what 2500 RPMs with the FDII engaged and being in "L" may give you the most accurate results, since this is ultimately what your trying to get (autostick with the full capabilities of FDII)
It might also be helpful to see what an 07 FD1 gets when they are in L and the FD1 is engaged, samething with an 08 autostick in gear 1 and FD1 engaged
I am going to see if I can post both results for you tonight, but I think knowing what 2500 RPMs with the FDII engaged and being in "L" may give you the most accurate results, since this is ultimately what your trying to get (autostick with the full capabilities of FDII)
It might also be helpful to see what an 07 FD1 gets when they are in L and the FD1 is engaged, samething with an 08 autostick in gear 1 and FD1 engaged
By "engaged" do you mean in LOCK mode? Easy enough, I'll check mine tonight.
I don't have the FD II to play with but from reading about it, one of the (many) features is that, the rpms increase when put in to Off-Road mode.
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I was also thinking about this, and I guess there is actually some logic to why the gearing is lower with the FD1 then the FDII when not having either engaged, From what I understand is the FD1 is geared lower in normal conditions since, FD1 system doesn't change any ratios when engaged, so having it lower would explain why the FD1 is still more capable then some other vehicles in the same class.Here's a couple of friends reports back to me, I'm going to recheck mine. It doesn't sound right that my 1st is lower than your Low.
EDIT: Strange but true! Here's my speeds @ 2500rpm
1st = 13mph
2nd = 20
3rd = 28
4th = 35
5th = 47
6th - too icy
Maybe I've got the FD II final drive in mine! :Racing:
As for the FDII it doesn't need the lower gearing in L since it does have the ratio change when the FDII is engaged
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yeah I guess LOCK mode is better wording
Is the AutoStick the only one to have the 6 pre-programmed gear ranges? I thought that the others had them but you just couldn't select them? When using the Manual Mode (Vehicles with - AutoStick)
When the manual mode switch is turned ON, the fixed changing gear line is set. By moving the switch to + side or – side, shift change is like a M/T and selects from a range of 6 pre-programmed gear ranges.
As explained over here: CVT Operations and Controls
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Gramps, I honestly don't know. I would guess that they do.. has Goebel1 had any success changing the gears manually yet? if he has I think that would confirm that the shift points are there.
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