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Hey Guys and Gals,

The aftermarket for the Patriot is only starting to take off and some people have done a lot of stuff to their little Riot while others are just starting to look at doing some modifications/add-on’s.

I started this thread to go over what I have done so far because I have had a few PM's and questions about the pictures I've posted of mine so far. Also, I want to see what other people have done, how much work it took and a ball park price for it so I can steal any good ideas out there ;).

To start off the first thing I did was buy Thule Crossbars (http://www.thuleracks.com/product.asp?dept_id=3&sku=45050) and put those on with a Sport Rack roof box. The box worked nicely for camping (can store almost all your gear in there, lay down the back seats and slide the front one's ahead and there is just enough room for a guy and a girl to sleep comfortably (slightly less comfortable when I shared it with my buddy on a snowboarding trip). I decided I wanted something I could leave up there so I picked up a Yakima Load Warrior basket (http://www.yakima.com/Product.aspx?id=67). I found mine used, it was about $250, they are normally ~$400 up here. It didn't take me long to want the look of it changed so I added the Load Warrior Extension (http://www.yakima.com/Product.aspx?id=70). I paid $200 for that. I also picked up the locks (http://www.yakima.com/Product.aspx?id=78), a shovel mount (http://www.yakima.com/Product.aspx?id=75), and the Yakima multi mount for paddles or an axe (http://www.yakima.com/Product.aspx?id=55).

I started looking at light’s for the basket and decided to go with the Mopar wiring kit and Hella lights that the dealerships sell for the baskets. Bought the wiring kit first and found out that you have to drill a hole in the roof, what a commitment on a ~3 week old vehicle. Ran all the wiring for it up to the point you have to drill the hole then decided to commit to it. The wiring runs from the battery and the drivers side head light through the drivers fender to where a bunch of wiring comes in just on the front side of the drivers side door. You have to pass it through the rubber boot so that a seal is maintained. The instructions show this as an easy step, what they don’t tell you is that the boot is zip tied on the back side and there is no way to get the wire through. I used an awl and punched a small hole in the rubber to pass it thru. The dash assembly gets pulled off and you use a template (supplied with the kit) to drill the hole for the switch. The wiring then runs up along the windshield pillar and along the side impact air bags to where you pass it through the roof through that dreaded hole (also marked using a supplied template). The install doesn’t take that long (spent about 1/3 of the time debating if I wanted to drill the hole or not). My light mounts are made from 3” x ¼” aluminum that I had laying around at work and are bolted on using some bent threaded rod. Forgot to take pics of the mounts before it got dark so here is what you get.

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The harness comes with wiring for 4 lights, I am adding the other two as soon as I pay off these tires.

I had no tow points so I bought the drawtite (I think) trailer hitch and bolted that up to have somewhere to pull from if I got stuck when hunting. Word of advice on that thing is PULL OFF THE BUMPER. I installed it months ago and im just getting knuckles back now. You cant get a good grip on the nut, bolt or wrenchs up there and the bolts do not turn easily. Take the 15 minutes and pull your bumper off. You will save at least an hour in the long run.

I picked up a Thule snowboard rack off Ebay for about half the cost of a new one (http://www.thuleracks.com/product.asp?dept_id=9&sku=575) but ran into some space issues with the basket and my cross bars not being long enough to fit both. I used about 4 feet of 1” square tubing and fabbed the brackets you see below.

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These are also bolted (two nuts and locktite so it doesn’t rattle loose and is hard to steal) on with bent threaded rod. They are solid as can be and I plan on using them to hold a bike rack or a kayak come summer. A word of advice if you build a similar design you really need to watch your height very closely, I drove into the West Edmonton Mall parkade and cleared the height restriction bar but the snowboard racks hit the concrete anyways and ripped off the roof (I fixed them using some small-ish machine screws).

That pretty much covers the top of my Patriot.

I installed the RR 2” lift a week and a half ago and it took about 4 hours (with a 45 minute dinner break). The install went smoothly with one or two exceptions. Tools required are: Bungee Cord, socket set (15mm, 18mm deep dish, 19mm), the same sizes for wrenches and a 21mm wrench, most important tool is a friend, makes life alot easier. A brass punch and a hammer are also required. The biggest thing that stands out in my memory is the rear upper control arm. My dad and I both pulled on a ½” breaker bar with a snipe for the longest time trying to break free the nut on the top side of the control arm. Turns out (yes, I am an idiot, but better to tell you all then you guys waste time doing the same thing) that the nut is welded, one hand on a wrench will break free the bolt side of it. The mounts for the new control arms were a little wider than the stock control arm so you have to widen the brackets with a few gentle taps of the hammer. Other than that an easy install.

I installed my tires (BFG A/T 225/75R16) the next day and they fit pretty well, just rub a bit when you crank it hard either way. They also only come in LT tires which ride a lot stiffer than the stock P-metric tires, but it just makes it feel more like a truck. Don’t let anyone charge you hourly to do your alignment, I had to call about 15 shops around Edmonton all of which were talking around $300 to do my wheel alignment. I ended up getting it done at City Spring on the southside for $85 (shameless plug if anyone is around Edmonton and getting it done, these guys did good work and were super helpful).

I’ve built a mount for tow points as I don’t have stock tow hooks. There is another post with it, but basically I bolted a 2” piece of ¼” wall square tubing to the bottom of the stock bumper and used ¼” or 3/8” x 1” flat bar bolted up through the frame the same way the stock tow hooks are. It mounts almost identical to the stock hooks and sticks out as seen here:

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The piece bolted to the bumper has two more pieces of the same material coming out through the holes in the front of the bumper. I am still working on my shackles for this. I just picked up some 1 ½” Bar stock I need to drill a couple holes in and contour to fit the shackles I have. In the future is a bull bar im going to bend myself to mount into these two receivers on the front of her. This is going to get two 8” lights for a little more lighting yet. The bull bar might also get expanded to a tubular bumper that I can put on and take off.

Other stuff to come is a custom skid plate design. We use a ¼” thick plastic on our Quads and it works pretty good. I am worried more about the odd tree or branch and snow than rocks though so it might not work for others. I’m also going to wire up the trailer hitch and when I do that add a light on the back of the basket as a reverse light (maybe to mess with tailgaters too). The rear bumper is getting some changes too. I am putting grip tape on the whole thing so I can get up to basket safer. I am also building a spare tire bracket and Jerry-Can holder that mounts to the trailer hitch. This will swing out of the way so I can get into the tailgate. The interior looks like it should have 'OH $HIT' handles, does the trail rated version have them and does anyone know how to install them?

So as you can see I have a few ideas up my sleeve yet. Anyone have any more for me or any questions about what I have done so far?

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Discussion starter · #3 ·
With just the cross bars there is a ton of noise, with the basket there is no noise at all. I have had it on as far back as I can remember so I can't really comment on the mileage aspect. I average about 10L/100km with 50/50 City/Highway driving.
 
Great job on your mods! Your Patriot looks great.

I have a couple of questions.

You say that the harness for the rack-mounted offroad lights is wired for four lamps. How does the switch control these? Is it a simple on-off switch, so they are all on (or all off) at the same time? Can you take a picture oft the installed switch?

I like your recovery shackle/bull bar mounts. First, can you estimate how much that assembly weighs? What kind of load do you think it can handle? I am wondering about the possibility of building a winch mount to fit. Naturally, I'm also wondering about building a hitch-mounted spare tire + dual jerry can rack, that incorporates identically spaced mount points, so that the winch could be mounted front or rear.

Thanks for posting, it's great to see people modifying their Jeeps!
 
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Not a priority at this time. When i'm done all the metal fabricated parts i will worry about getting them powdercoated.
 
Aren't they just the base model wheels??

Looks good though. Yours, above others for some reason, makes me really want to lift my wife's Patriot. :)
 
WANTED TOUGH LOOKING JEEP

YOUR PAT LOOKS GREAT!!!!! here is my story. this is the first jeep i have ever owned. i traded my 06 ford fx4 4x4 for my 07 pat sport 5 speed because gas just keeps going up.i wanted a 4 door wrangler but i only had the ford for 10 months and know one wanted to give what it was worth it only had 10,000 miles on it but anyway now i have a jeep. my jeep has the 17 inch wheels and tires. but it looks ( well people call it cute) and i want it to look tough so i have been looking for some new wheels and tires. i do plan on putting a lift on but i want to wait to see how good they are or if they have any issues after they have been on for sometime. i want what you all want a winch bumper tire carrier, some lights on top a programmer. here are some wheels what do you all think???? the tires are 225/75/16 and the wheels i found on performanceplustire.com. can you help or give me a list of how you made the tow hook ???? thanks DALTONSJEEP
 

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I don't have any pictures of the accessory mount on the front before I installed it (I forgot my cam at home that day and needed the truck back). I will take some when I pull it off to get it powder coated. The beauty of this thing is you can bolt anything you want on to it. I'd say it weighs about 35 pounds, but thats just a guess, say 4.5 feet of 1/4" wall 2" square tube.

The switch for the lights is down by your left knee on the part that has the plastic with all the little bumps. The switch operates all the lights, on or off only. The install guide says one wire is to go to your head light wire, so they can only be run if your headlights are on, I wired it straight to power so i can use them whenever. They are bright enough i will never miss it and leave them on overnight.

The wheels I got are the stock ones off a 2001 or 2002 Liberty. A guy was selling them because he bought new ones. Got the set of 5 for about 200 bucks. The biggest reason i want to put a tire rack on the back is because the lid in the trunk will not close with a bigger spare in there. I believe its a 225 wide tire and it makes the lid sit on an angle and not close properly. Anyone have any plans or anything for this type of thing?

I want mine to go from the trailer hitch up and across the bumper to the rear passengers corner. Then i need to build a swivel so i can swing it out of the way. The swivel design and how to latch it are what is making me scratch my head. Hoping to build on Saturday.

Thanks for writing what you are looking at Daltonsjeep... that rubber is wicked.


Anyone else have something they want to add???
 
I appreciate the details in your post! Thanks!

What about going to the wreckers and finding a Blazer rear tire mount? You might need to modify the hinge to bolt it to your Pat's body, but probably easier than making the whole thing.

So, 29.5" spare tire does not fit into the spare tire well in the trunk? What's the biggest size that would fit?

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Glad to hear you plan to powdercoat, but the way the bare metal is rusting, are you sure you won't have a problem with the powdercoating after the winter? You'll really have to clean up the rusty steel before powdercoating.

I would have painted with Tremclad at the very least.
 
Quiff, it is obvious that you are a man with great talent. I believe, in my opinion, that your Pat is the most worked on, original fabrication pat to date here in the forum. Congrats, I for one am taking notes from you in hopes to replicate certain things. I cant add anything because I am a newbee, but I sure do have questions. I am still not quite sure what part number you used for the mopar wiring kit and still not quite sure how you ran those wires. I can only assume that as long as I were to buy the appropriate kit (the mopar kit you used), it would come with the same instructions that you followed to install your lights. Of course I first need to get the cross bars and basket, but I just want to educated myself so I can be ready. Would you be able to post a few pictures of how the light switch looks (the one to activate the rack lights)? Once again, thank you in advance. I only hope to contribute as much as you have already done so in the near future.....DJ
 
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That thought actually crossed my mind (using the blazer mount) but i dont really want to bolt into the body, that is taking this a step to far for me. The roof hurt enough to drill into.

The height of the spare tire fits, but just. Its the width of mine, pretty sure its a 225.

I can try and grab some pics tonight, but im not going to lie to you, im pretty forgetful. The wiring harness comes with the instructions to install, just go to your dealer and ask to see the accessory book for the patriot, its in there. I will have a look in my files, I think I kept the instructions, if I can find them I will scan and post.

I appreciate the talent comment, really it comes down to I am a very hands on Mechanical Engineer who works in an industrial fabrication shop, has access to alot of free steel and a brother-in-law who is a welder. Its fun to play with this kind of thing if it doesn't cost much :). Thanks though.
 
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I'm a plain wheels kind of a guy, too much Chrome for my tastes but I do like the first ones you posted. The 225/27/16 will rub with a stock rim, i know that for sure. Not much, only in a sharp turn.
 
I looked at a Pat today, and I think the Blazer mount would need to be drilled into the Pat's taillights, which just wouldn't work. :(

I'm sure you'll be sharing your solution though!
 
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Yeah, i will definitely put it up. Probably wont get to it this weekend though.
 
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