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Hey y'all.


Well, unfortunately 4 months in, I'm experiencing my first huge problem. To be honest, it's been a reoccurring issue, but something I haven't had the time to really take the car in, since I knew I would have to leave it, and that would leave me motor-less. (Sometimes I regret trading in my Kia, but oh well.)

The following is the situation that is happening, and I really need y'alls input.

I bought my car September '12. It's now February '12. I have a Limited edition '09 Jeep Pat. It has a sun roof, the talking phone (bluetooth), all of the good stuff you know?

I was originally supposed to buy a basic '12 Pat, but it sold, and then the '09 came on the lot, and I fell in love. Or lust.

Put my payment down the next day.

Fast forward to today. Every time a thunder storm comes in, the car holds water, and the water leaks through the front lights/sunroof button console. I brought it in yesterday to get routine maintenance on it (oil change, tire rotation), and I let them know of the leaking issue so that could be take care of.

Lo and behold, a thunder storm rolled in last night/this morning, and when I pulled up to the dealership this morning, my car was outside in the rain. Talked to service, he explained what happened, and why the car was leaking.

He told me that they replaced the sunroof/sealing. Okay, fine.

Y'all I kid you not. I pulled out of the parking spot, and drove two spots down, and Niagara falls fell in my car and on the radio.

Brought it back to service, talked to the manager. Apparently, this is a known issue. :mad:

I don't know if I should fault myself for not knowing any better (because my last car did not have a sunroof at all, and I honestly never even knew this type of stuff could happen).

I told them okay, I was in a pretty good mood this morning, and I didn't want to be upset. They cleaned up the car, and I was on my way. Left the dealership, and called my boyfriend to let him know what was going on, when I looked at the radio and realized that I was talking, but I couldn't see anything. That's when I got heated.

Because I asked the manager before I left the first time, what happens with the radio if its going to continuously happen. (It blanked out once, but came back on the same day).

So now, the Patriot is at the dealership. And I'm stuck in an '04 Impala that I hate.

I've already called Chrysler and opened a case, because I'm not about to deal with this, and I've put SO much money down on it and I'm still making payments on it (for the next 6 years mind you) and it's not fair. (I don't think that it is anyway).

Any kind of advice is needed. This was my first time buying my car on my own. With my first car, a family member did everything for me, and now he is no longer here.
 
How in the world did you end up with six years of payments on a '09?
That is harsh...

Sunroof leakage issues are well known and well documented on this forum.

But the good news is a number of fairly easy solutions are also well documented.

Use the search function to get more but here is one (with pictures even!)
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50435&highlight=sun+roof+leaks

And never ever buy a vehicle with a sunroof again, OK?
 
Its not a Patriot issue, its a sun roof issue was my point.
I don't know of any manufacturer that offers a sun roof that doesn't have issues of one magnitude or another.

One of my boys bought a higher end Nissan with sun roof...leaks.
A buddy had a GM product with sun roof...it leaked.

Modern vehicles are unibody meaning the body no longer sits on top of a full frame...the frame is incorporated into the body of the car. Result is the entire body flexes and moves over bumps, road undulations, etc.

Then you cut a hole into the roof which further compromises stiffness and unless there is considerable engineering put into the vehicle you get cowl shake, vibration, squeaks and etc.

All the rubber and silicone in the world can't fight all that off, I don't care whose vehicle it is...who made it.

But don't give up...you can mitigate your issues by doing the drain tube clearing thing and then its ongoing maintenance. As you have a sun roof now at least use it often, eh?
 
I think you have bigger issues to worry about than a sunroof leak refering to a vehicle as "your baby" and saying you "lust" after it. That right there is a 5 day a week appointment with the shrink in my book. At least make sure the tail pipe is cold 1st. :wow:

:D

If the seal was replaced, properly, and you are experiencing leaks inside still it is most likely the drain tubes. Either blocked, kinked, or come apart.

It isn't the end of the world. As was said above any vehicle with a sunroof can leak( even body on frame - it is not unibody specific ). There is a hole in the roof; end of story. Make sure the seal is on properly and then make sure the drain tubes are not blocked or compromised in some other manner and the leak will stop.

My Patriot is a 2011 and has the sunroof. Have had it 1.5 years so far and no leaks( knock on wood, salt over the shoulder, 4-leaf clover, rabbit's foot, etc... ;) ).
 
Dont feel bad bub.There are a huge amount of threads dealing with a leaky Patriot from either up front by the lights or by the rear dome lights.I just got my Pat last October but before buying one i lurked around in this forum for awhile to see what some of the problems were that the Patriot had.I kept coming across a "leaky roof" issue.Either the sunroof or some grommet back by the hatch or the satellite antenna.After reading the leaky issues so much i concluded that i would not buy a Patriot with a sunroof.As previously stated,there is a correct fix for this and you arent the only one that has had this problem.Just do a quick search and i believe you'll find numerous helpful threads regarding this issue.As previously stated,i think the fix had something to do with drain tubes.Good Luck :)
 
:dead_horse: but... I've had two vehicles that had a sunroof. I've never had a leak or issue with either of them. One of them was an 01 Impala with every other issue possible.

I feel like this issue is a Jeep Patriot issue and not a "sun roof issue". Before I bought my Patriot. I had never heard of sun roofs leaking.

Like has been stated there are several threads on here about the issue and how to fix it.

Sorry about your troubles, but im sure your Patriot will be good to you the rest of the time you have it.
 
I have to say that those of us who have not had a sunroof problem are very lucky. Our Maxima wagon and Subaru legacy wagon had sunroofs and they all eventually leaked. Once my wife stopped at a light with her friend sitting beside her in the Subaru and they had a waterfall hit them! No sunroofs for me! As far as the Patriot goes, I remember reading about factory errors such as drain tubes NOT being connected, poor sealing, trunk lid problems and also the roof rack mounting points leaking. My 2008 Pat does not leak, but lately I have seen some drops near the tailgate lower section. This may develop into a problem, I'll just have to keep an eye on it. Since you are at the beginning of your 6 year payment, see if you can get help from the lemon law and trade your baby for one with a dry diaper.
 
I thought the sun roof leak was a resolved issue. I remember reading the TSB where the dealers were ordered to replace the drain tubes.

And there was a thread about fixing a kink and snaking the tubes with weed wacker line.
http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50435
 
In my opinion, the leak and everything damaged should be fixed or replaced by the dealership. That sucks.
 
As much as I love my convertible, I hated the fact it always leaked. I'll put it's new top on one day and hopefully it won't leak nearly as bad or at all. Now when it comes to my Patriot, I'm glad it doesn't have a sunroof. One less thing to break or leak or give me a head ache. It is a nice luxury to have but more so if the car is made for it. If I wanted to go topless again, I would have gotten a used Wrangler or something designed to be an open top vehicle.
 
Modern vehicles are unibody meaning the body no longer sits on top of a full frame...the frame is incorporated into the body of the car. Result is the entire body flexes and moves over bumps, road undulations, etc.

Then you cut a hole into the roof which further compromises stiffness and unless there is considerable engineering put into the vehicle you get cowl shake, vibration, squeaks and etc.

All the rubber and silicone in the world can't fight all that off, I don't care whose vehicle it is...who made it.
Half right.

Aftermarket sunroofs are a guaranteed water leak. That is simply cutting a hole in a roof and sticking a piece of glass in it. Factory sunroofs are another matter entirely. The roof, in some ways, is actually made stronger because of the additional framework required to attach and support the glass, motor, guides, etc. Body flex doesn't have much of an effect on it's sealing ability.

What is usually the problem is clogged drains (like happens to the Patriot) and of course the alignment problems with slides, failing motors and switches, etc that can all contribute to the ownership experience being less than desirable. I never buy sunroof equipped cars unless it's a model with it being mandatory (my old Audi couldn't be had without one, nor could my subsequent BMW). Patriot sunroof problems are WELL documented, but so are the fixes. If the original poster becomes armed with this information, they can probably enjoy a future without continued troubles.
 
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