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Read about x tire rotation on this forum, can't find thread.

In any event, I request they do it at the dealership. Service rep at the dealership recommendations were that it was necessary. So they won't be doing it that way.

I wonder if I should finish the rotation properly in my garage at home?

Thoughts here are always appreciated.
 
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Tire rotation was needed with bias ply tires back in the day.
today's radial tires not so much. Still a good idea but not needed near as much as some think.

seems to me the frequency of rotation in the owners manual/service booklet is high.

The purpose of rotation is to get the drive wheels on the back and the wear equalized on the steering contact patches, etc.

So you can either do it as stated in the owners manual or you can inspect and do it as needed. All you want is even wear and for the tire to be nice and square, not rounded off on any one more so than the others.

I'm rotating at every second oil change, it was just too frequent for me at every one...mind with the kms I put on my oil changes happen every 3-4 months.

If you don't have directional tires you pull the fronts to the back, leaving them on the side they started on and bring the rears to the front, switching them over, side to side. So, its not really an X. That is the recommended way for FWD. Which the Patriot is for most of its driving time. . Important thing is to remain constant. Don't fwd cross one time, rear cross the next and cross both axles the next.

If you have directional tires you go front to back and back to front keeping the tires on the same side of the vehicle for the life of the tire.

To my mind its better to rotate up on a lift, you get to inspect and shake stuff that you can't when doing it on the driveway.
 
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Much thanks. I did talk directly to the gentleman who did the physical rotation of my tires and he stated that he did exactly that which you stated. Seems the service rep/management did understand what I was saying or didn't know himself.

Either way the rotation was done properly and I will keep an eye on it.
 
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My vehicles( FWD, RWD, 4WD, AWD, whatever... )get a very strict schedule of tire rotations, and PSI checks, to ensure the longest possible tread wear. All tires need to be rotated.

The rotation method I use may be the X rotation the OP was talking about but not sure? Never heard it called that so? The purpose of this method is to ensure that each tire makes it to each corner of the vehicle at some point for the best wear. It is not FWD or other drive type specific and is used by many tire shops for all vehicle types as it ensures the best wear out of the tires.

Many places think rotate is JUST side to side or front to back and thus the tires never make it to more than 1 alternative spot. This way they make all 4 corners. The only tires I would NOT use this rotation method for are Unidirectional tires as Metaxa said.

I just provide a copy of the method I use( shown below )whenever I take my vehicle in for an OC and to have the tires rotated( same schedule )and make sure the mechanic follows my request.

Check PSI: 2X's p/Month ( me )
Rotate: Every 5000
Rotation Method: See Pic
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Dangerous said:
The manual recommends C. It is nice since you don't need to remember if you did front to back or a x rotation last you just do this every time and the tires move around the vehicle.

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Unless the person who does them next time decides to do A, in which case you are back where you started.

What you need is consistency, and that usually comes from having one person call the shots.
 
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Dangerous said:
The manual recommends C. It is nice since you don't need to remember if you did front to back or a x rotation last you just do this every time and the tires move around the vehicle.

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Kind of ridiculous to list A and C as different because in reallity they do the exact same thing. :doh:
 
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