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Hello all! I have an 07 'riot with 95,000 miles. I've always used the OEM Wrangler tires on it. Honestly, contrary to tirerack reviews, I really like them. MY wife has the Hankook on her car and loves them. I read killer reviews. I do a lot of highway driving in upstate NY. Any opinions? BTW I have the 65 r 17s on it as part of the wheel package.

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I have always had good luck with general grabbers, they are in the lower middle price range, but WELL worth the money. Like most tires, they handle great on dry pavement, but in the snow/rain is where they outshine most higher priced tires. Read the reviews and surveys on tirerack, you won't be disappointed!
 
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I have General HTS Grabbers on my Avalanche, and will probably get another set for that truck for summer use.

When the Wranglers on my Patriot wear out, I think I am going to replace them with the Hankook Optimo 727 for summer use. As you said, MANY GREAT reviews.

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The 727's are a good passenger car all weather tire. Seeing as that( i.e. passenger car tires )is almost all that is available in the OE 17" tire size for the Patriot's it is a good choice. You have to upsize to 225's to start finding true light truck/SUV class tires other than a few very rare options in the OE 215 sizes. This was a very poor decision on the part of Jeep(Chrysler )IMO.

There are no General Grabbers available in the OE Patriot 17" tire sizes just FYI for those recommending them. Not in any of the models( HTS, AT2, GW, etc... ). They start at 225 - 235 for section width and go up.
 
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You can read my thread here, i have the 727's and love them, have 20000kms on them now. They are great on the freeway and around town. Wet traction is great. Cant comment on snow traction but they are rated good in the snow. One thing about these tires is that they are quiet!
 
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The 727 do get good reviews. Very good at Consumer Reports. What is striking to me is how well they performed in Consumer Reports in the snow traction and ice braking category. The 727's get 'very good' in both. This is very rare, in fact it is the only tested tire that gets 'very good' in both those categories. This is what I think make these tires unique.
I wasn't disappointed with the stock SRA's either to be honest. The SRA's are definitely more aggressive then the 727's, and a good choice in the stock size.
I think the 727's and the SRA's are the two best stock size tires for the patriot.
If you go up to 225's then you have some true All Terrain tire options (Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S $122 on tire rack, Pirelli Scorpion ATR $194 on tire rack).
I was concerned with snow traction so I went with the Goodyear Fortera TripleTred 225R65 17. It has the 'mountain and snowflake' symbol designating it as a winter traction tire. Another good winter traction tire that can be run year round is the nokian wrg2.
 
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The 727 do get good reviews. Very good at Consumer Reports. What is striking to me is how well they performed in Consumer Reports in the snow traction and ice braking category. The 727's get 'very good' in both. This is very rare, in fact it is the only tested tire that gets 'very good' in both those categories. This is what I think make these tires unique.
I wasn't disappointed with the stock SRA's either to be honest. The SRA's are definitely more aggressive then the 727's, and a good choice in the stock size.
I think the 727's and the SRA's are the two best stock size tires for the patriot.
If you go up to 225's then you have some true All Terrain tire options (Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S $122 on tire rack, Pirelli Scorpion ATR $194 on tire rack).
I was concerned with snow traction so I went with the Goodyear Fortera TripleTred 225R65 17. It has the 'mountain and snowflake' symbol designating it as a winter traction tire. Another good winter traction tire that can be run year round is the nokian wrg2.
 
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**update** no hankook

I talked to the guy that runs a local tire distributer and said that because the
Patriot is a little higher a car tire might not wear right. He said to stick with the SRAs or upsize to the225/65-17. Pluses/minuses to doing this? Recommondations (including the Firestone Grabbers earlier mentioned)?
 
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Hmmm - "The Optimo H727 is Hankook’s Standard Touring All-Season tire developed for the drivers of coupes, sedans, minivans and crossover vehicles..."
 
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kapalacc said:
I talked to the guy that runs a local tire distributer and said that because the
Patriot is a little higher a car tire might not wear right. He said to stick with the SRAs or upsize to the225/65-17. Pluses/minuses to doing this? Recommondations (including the Firestone Grabbers earlier mentioned)?
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30000kms on my tires now and still no problems with wearing funny. Not saying the person that said the above is totally wrong but to be honest I don't think that is right. Regardless of the height of a vehicle I can't see how that would affect the wear pattern that much.

My 727's vs the SRA's are night and difference, I only got 60000kms out of the SRA's and once they were about 1/2 worn they were rather noisey. Each to their own though I'd still try to get a set of Hankook's:)
 
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kapalacc said:
I talked to the guy that runs a local tire distributer and said that because the
Patriot is a little higher a car tire might not wear right. He said to stick with the SRAs or upsize to the225/65-17. Pluses/minuses to doing this? Recommondations (including the Firestone Grabbers earlier mentioned)?
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Sometimes I wonder about people who work in the auuto industry that say things like that. It is like mechanics still saying synthetic oils cause leaks. Just makes me shake my head. :doh:

The Hankook Optimo 727's are designed to be used on mini vans and small SUV's as the other poster mentions above even though they are considered a passenger car all season class tire. They are very good for a passenger car class tire used on mini vans and suv/cuv's. I would choose them in less than half a heart beat over the Goodforayear's.

"IF" I end up staying with the stock tire size that came on my Patriot( 215/60R17 )I will probably go with the 727's when I replace the OE tires as frankly they are about the best tire option out there in this size to choose from. Quiet, excellent bad weather ability, good treadlife, and they are affordable. If you will stay with your stock 215/65R17 size, and you don't off road, these are your best bet IMHO.

Upsizing to 225's means you have a whole new world of true light truck/suv class tires available to choose from( which frankly is what should come on the Patriot OE )AND it allows for off road use with appropriate tires. Apparantly 225/65R17's will fit the Patriot's without rubbing so it allows you to get a tire size that provides appropriate tires for the vehicle; on and off road.

The "Grabber" name refers to General tires btw not Firestone. If you upsize to 225's do you want an All Season tire or an All Terrain? Unless you off road an All Terrain is overkill even if you see bad winter weather and they will impact your MPG. If you drive on the roads the majority of the time, and your off roading is just mild, then a good All Season is all you need even if you have bad weather. In 225's I suggest...


All Season:
1 - Firestone Destination LE's. GREAT tire in all conditions! Even bad weather. Last forever, quiet, and very affordable.
2 - General Grabber HTS. Not as good as the LE for tread wear but a good tire overall. About the same $$$ as LE's.
3 - Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza. Overall same performance and life as the LE but will be more $$$.
4 - Michelin LTX M+S2. The old M+S tires from Michelin were the gold standard in light truck/suv class AS tires. They have been tweaked( hence M+S2 )but are still very good. IMO the LE's and HTS tires are as good or even better( probably better )but these are BIG $$$.

ALL Terrain:
1 - Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo/Revo2. One of the best AT's for on road/snow EVER IMO. Great tread wear. Minimal noise.
2 - Bridgestone Dueler AT D695. Called the Revo Jr. by many. Same overall poerformance but less $$$ than the Revo's.
3 - Firestone Destination AT. Very good and affordable AT. Good on road/snow and mild to moderate off road. Reasonable $$$.
4 - BF Goodrich All Terrain AT KO. If you will off road a lot but still use the Patriot on road a lot as well these are the ticket.
 
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Got a set o the 727's right after I got my Riot on the recommendation of tirerack.com. Rides like a dream, great in the rain...getting 30 mpg hwy. Get 'em.
 
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kapalacc said:
I talked to the guy that runs a local tire distributer and said that because the
Patriot is a little higher a car tire might not wear right. He said to stick with the SRAs or upsize to the225/65-17. Pluses/minuses to doing this? Recommondations (including the Firestone Grabbers earlier mentioned)?
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Sounds a little crazy that he said it might not wear right. That might be true of a small car tire on a big suv, but neither is the case. As mentioned, the 727 is recommended for suv's. And the patriot is based on the 'car' platform of the dodge caliber. I don't think you have anything to worry about in this case.

There are pros and cons to getting larger tires. However, it will be minimal going up just one size. The big advantage here is tire selection. Some people like the way wider tires look. Disadvantages of a bigger tire include increased weight, friction and wind resistance. These can all negatively effect gas mileage, but it should be negligible with this minor size increase. When I went from 215's to 225's i didn't notice a difference. I still get 30 mpg.
 
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i put on Hankook Optimo's 48,000 miles ago - the only tire shop around the high desert in ca here that had a set of four 215/65r17 - $650 with a 120 mail in rebate - then i just had two swamped out prorated and a fan belt replacement all for $250 - the did handle good but for 100,000 warrantied tires - they should not have burned up so quick - plus the sidewalls srarted dry rotting - then again the sun's UV's are powerfull in the South West... Will be replacing the other two in a couple of pay periods....
 
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