in a jam with 2010 pat

bruski · May 24, 2011

hello all so i have my 2010 riot and having issues

see i pull a seadoo rxpx and today went to pull it outa the water on a sand ramp and i couldnt get the riot to get up the ramp not sure if the sand had something todo with this
i was not spinning wheels it just diddnt have enought a$$ to get out of its own way

i need more power what can i do?

I NEED POWER BEFORE I ROUTE TO SELL THIS THING

MrMischief · May 24, 2011

Best way to improve performance is to cut weight. Go on a diet, your ride and your body will thank you.

tiptronic · May 24, 2011

Dont forget the Pat is a small family Wagon that just happens to have 4x4 ( some of them ) Its powerful enough for general family use, but with the 2.4 thats about it!!

You need the Export 2.2 Turbo CRD ....but with North America stuck in the land of the Dinosaur...you cant have one !!

Hitzy · May 24, 2011

ESP off might have done the trick...

jlobaugh · May 24, 2011

maybe removing some air from the tires would have helped, but you would need a way to put it back it, especially when towing.

goguadi · May 25, 2011

esp off (full off)
deflate tires.
most important,tire tread that is sand compatible.
not all tires behave properly in sand.
some are better,some are worse.
keep that in mind.

Binnsy · May 25, 2011

bruski said:
hello all so i have my 2010 riot and having issues

see i pull a seadoo rxpx and today went to pull it outa the water on a sand ramp and i couldnt get the riot to get up the ramp not sure if the sand had something todo with this
i was not spinning wheels it just diddnt have enought a$$ to get out of its own way

i need more power what can i do?

I NEED POWER BEFORE I ROUTE TO SELL THIS THING

I'm not an expert but, what does the doo weigh? how steep was that ramp, what model Pat are you in?

I have a 2.4 manual and would be extremely disappointed if it wouldn't get up a boat ramp. I feel fairly confident it would do OK as first gear is a fairly low ratio... I would expect to spin the wheels before running out of puff?

dixiedawg · May 25, 2011

I sure would need to know more about this. I take mine up steep hills in snow and ice with no problems, and have the back really loaded up, and heavy coolers, gas and kerosene cans, 7 gallon water containers, etc.

He said he didn't spin the tires, so not sure traction was the issue.

I find myself doubting the OP on this.

link3721 · May 25, 2011

I'm guessing you drive an auto. It's the safety clutch thing (whatever it's called) that prevents the gear from engaging if you're trying to overwork it. turn ESP to full off and engage 4x4 mode. If it still doesn't work, hold the brake, put it in neutral, give it some gas (about 3500 rpms) and then shift to drive while letting off the brake. May not be good for the transmission, but it'll get the wheels moving.

jeelo · May 26, 2011

very weird. I tow a 1500lbs bass boat and have no issues with any boat ramps I use. I usually just lock 4x4 and I'm good. Never had a need to put the ESP full/partial off.

BTW, I have the 2.4L CVT

lilishmoto · May 27, 2011

There is a thread on here somewhere that talks about this exact problem. To make a long story short all you have to do when this happens is turn the riot off then start it back up. this resets the computer and you should have your power back. The riot is rated to 1500lbs without a tow package so it should pull your jet ski no problem. There is one guy on here pulling a large boat (scary) you just have to dig in the archives. I have had this happen while out on a camping trip way back in the mountains hauling my lightweight camp trailer (<1000lbs). I was glad I had read about it prior because there I was in a full on panic attack as I sat in the middle of a long steep dirt single lane hill with a trailer ahhhhh, until I remembered reading the article here in the forum (thank you jeeppatriot.com). I don't know what causes it, I don't know why it has to be reset I just know when you are in a situation that the computer deems unsafe and cuts everything to protect itself that's what you have to do. it seems to happen on steep grades while pulling a trailer I have noticed. I hate it and have wanted to swap the riot because of it but there are a lot of plusses I would have to give up and a big one is 23mpg every day, that and ITS A JEEP! Hope this helps.

Double D · May 27, 2011

We pull a 750 lb aluminum fishing boat with our Patriot. No problem on the boat ramp. Biggest complaint would be rear viability while backing the boat due to the head rests on the rear seats. Leaves some blind spots.

lilishmoto · May 28, 2011

found one of the threads i will keep looking for the other one. look at this thread
: Stuck on a hill with trailer!

jloffermann · May 28, 2011

lilishmoto said:
found one of the threads i will keep looking for the other one. look at this thread
: Stuck on a hill with trailer!

very good thread the whole time my esp was only half way off i feel so sheepish! now i make sure it says espoff lol....

in a jam with 2010 pat

bruski

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tiptronic

Hitzy

jlobaugh

goguadi

Binnsy

dixiedawg

link3721

jeelo

lilishmoto

Double D

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