Hi
I am doing a little research on the Patriot. May want to upgrade one of my winter cars to something a tad bit newer.
I am a Mopar guy myself but am not the familiar with them. If I bought one would probably get a Laitude or sport 2.4 5spd with the Freedom drive 1. From what I can glean from the useless Jeep description on their web page(Sergio should fire the clown who wrote that up) the FDI if it isnt locked acts like an on demand system, ie when the front looses traction it will transmit tourque to the rear axle.
Anyhow I assume there is no transfer case and there must be electronic clutch pak in the rear diff to engage it?
I see they have a T-handle to lock it if one would like and this would split the tourque front to rear. Not sure of the ratio. But this appeals to me since the on demand systems are inferior, I would prefer having both axles getting tourque in snowy conditions.
My question is can you use this feature at highway speeds and can you also use it on dry pavement?? Ie lock it with the t-handle doing 60sh in wet/dry or snowy/dry type conditions?
I have a 4.7 jeep with Slec trac and in full time 4wd it splits tourque 50/50, no wheel slippage crap and one can lock it if one desires. I like the full 4wd because on snowy road, the odds of loosing traction on both axles going 40-50 is nil and the jeep tracks nice and straight. Ditto my Durango which has the same t-case less the 2wd option.
My pal owns a body shop and discussing with him over the years, the on demand AWD(ie fwd until slippage occurs) systems are the #1 smashed up cars which come into his shop. Usually the story is, 2-3"s of snow on road, doing 40 sh, car gets squirrelly fish tail, from the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip and into the ditch and to his shop or junk yard they go! Sees loads of subarus and CRV's etc He had an older CRV in his shop, told me if you want to kill your wife, buy her one of these. It was in accident on a side road and the women driving it was seriously injured with both legs broken. He talked to the police when they towed it in. they said they had witnesses it wasnt to violent a crash, just a fender bender deal but the whole front was stuffed in and the intrusion into the dash and front seats was bad.
My other questions are general.
I know the new world 2.4 uses chain to drive the cams. How do they hold up long term, ie 150K plus miles??
How is the suspension on these holding up, My PT's have issues with the LCA bushings but I just by new Moogs and slap em in.
How is the highway gas mileage? Do they get the 28 mpg for 4x4 5spd??
Lastly how difficult to change the fluid in the 5spd manual transmission and the rear differential? What do they take for fluids? I assume the trans probably ATF+4 but what about the rear diff?
I am doing a little research on the Patriot. May want to upgrade one of my winter cars to something a tad bit newer.
I am a Mopar guy myself but am not the familiar with them. If I bought one would probably get a Laitude or sport 2.4 5spd with the Freedom drive 1. From what I can glean from the useless Jeep description on their web page(Sergio should fire the clown who wrote that up) the FDI if it isnt locked acts like an on demand system, ie when the front looses traction it will transmit tourque to the rear axle.
Anyhow I assume there is no transfer case and there must be electronic clutch pak in the rear diff to engage it?
I see they have a T-handle to lock it if one would like and this would split the tourque front to rear. Not sure of the ratio. But this appeals to me since the on demand systems are inferior, I would prefer having both axles getting tourque in snowy conditions.
My question is can you use this feature at highway speeds and can you also use it on dry pavement?? Ie lock it with the t-handle doing 60sh in wet/dry or snowy/dry type conditions?
I have a 4.7 jeep with Slec trac and in full time 4wd it splits tourque 50/50, no wheel slippage crap and one can lock it if one desires. I like the full 4wd because on snowy road, the odds of loosing traction on both axles going 40-50 is nil and the jeep tracks nice and straight. Ditto my Durango which has the same t-case less the 2wd option.
My pal owns a body shop and discussing with him over the years, the on demand AWD(ie fwd until slippage occurs) systems are the #1 smashed up cars which come into his shop. Usually the story is, 2-3"s of snow on road, doing 40 sh, car gets squirrelly fish tail, from the wheels that slip to the wheels that grip and into the ditch and to his shop or junk yard they go! Sees loads of subarus and CRV's etc He had an older CRV in his shop, told me if you want to kill your wife, buy her one of these. It was in accident on a side road and the women driving it was seriously injured with both legs broken. He talked to the police when they towed it in. they said they had witnesses it wasnt to violent a crash, just a fender bender deal but the whole front was stuffed in and the intrusion into the dash and front seats was bad.
My other questions are general.
I know the new world 2.4 uses chain to drive the cams. How do they hold up long term, ie 150K plus miles??
How is the suspension on these holding up, My PT's have issues with the LCA bushings but I just by new Moogs and slap em in.
How is the highway gas mileage? Do they get the 28 mpg for 4x4 5spd??
Lastly how difficult to change the fluid in the 5spd manual transmission and the rear differential? What do they take for fluids? I assume the trans probably ATF+4 but what about the rear diff?
