Just curious how many on here actually use snow tires as opposed to the stock SRA's. I have the tire and wheel package and the tires are listed as "All terrain tires". I am guessing these are a little better than the all season radials, but not as good as actual snow tires.
Snow Tires vs. Stock
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Just curious how many on here actually use snow tires as opposed to the stock SRA's. I have the tire and wheel package and the tires are listed as "All terrain tires". I am guessing these are a little better than the all season radials, but not as good as actual snow tires.
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I bought all season goodyear forteras in summer 09. I live in Ottawa where we get crazy amounts of snow. Never had nor never will buy snow tires, even for my Jetta. If you drive carefully and slow to the road conditions you should be fine. I heard from a tow truck driver once that he tows more people out of the ditch with winters because they feel more confident driving...maybe that means they drive to quickly?
Besides, the jeep is so much fun in the winter!!! Donuts!!!
Besides, the jeep is so much fun in the winter!!! Donuts!!!
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I had the SRA's for the first year but bought the winter tires for the 2nd season. The SRA's were actually not bad in mud and snow but I found them scary on ice. I do a lot of skiing and traveling on snow packed and icy highways in Alberta, BC, and Montana. The Michelin X-Ice Xi2 tires are not really very aggressive for deep snow but they are satisfactory for the conditions I need them for. Tirerack.com has an interesting article comparing studless winter tires with the studded winter tires and I was quite surprised at the rating that studless were even better than studded tires. We have Michelin LTX M+S tires on our 99 Cherokee Sport and they dig through deep snow quite well but I feel much safer in the Patriot on icy roads with ESP and winter tires. I once did a full 360 in a Cherokee on black ice on a major highway and it was scary to say the least.
I have a post on the tires forum check it out, After having 2 others jeeps with all season tires (country & loredo) I decided to try winter tires, Im really happy with my General tire altimax they are amazing- stick to the road like glue! before i used to get very slight slipping after say a left hand turn at the lights where you cant really crawl at 2mph (on all the jeeps) not with the winter tires though
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You live in Pitt.... Lets Go Mountaineers... 
but with that a side. The SRA did fine last year. I went through 17''+ of snow on a old back road just fine. (Wife thinks otherwise) But they blow on ice! They will get you through the winter. I changed my tires to Yokohama ATs and they seem to be doing great so far. It is really up to how good of a driver are you...?
but with that a side. The SRA did fine last year. I went through 17''+ of snow on a old back road just fine. (Wife thinks otherwise) But they blow on ice! They will get you through the winter. I changed my tires to Yokohama ATs and they seem to be doing great so far. It is really up to how good of a driver are you...?
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on icy road you must have winter tires, specialy when the weather gets below 20, we get a lot of that in quebec (canada).
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If you live in the city the SRA are all you need. If you live away from the city and do back roads/side roads, then you might want a winter tire. Again all depends on how good of a driver you are and how fast you are going. Pittsburgh can be crazy at times and does have a lot of crazy drivers. <---That statement applies to Canadian drivers as well.
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lol, eh? :Na_Na_Na_Na:
snow tires..
I felt that the SRA's were just fine for the winter here in SE Wisconsin, where we get very cold and snowy winters. I now have yoko geolander at-s and am very pleased so far, i would have got the sra's again but wanted something a little more aggressive. This jeep will get you through anything the weather can throw at you as long as your not TOO deep in the woods.
I felt that the SRA's were just fine for the winter here in SE Wisconsin, where we get very cold and snowy winters. I now have yoko geolander at-s and am very pleased so far, i would have got the sra's again but wanted something a little more aggressive. This jeep will get you through anything the weather can throw at you as long as your not TOO deep in the woods.
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So I have a question. I've had a Jetta for 8 years. I live in Ottawa and have never had winter tires. I've never been stuck or had an accident. I've drivin to the conditions either on snow or ice and never had to fork out money on 2 sets of tires. Why are winter tires a question for a 4x4 jeep? When I see a Patriot with winter tires, or any "all wheel drive" I question the marketing of the tire companies. Anyone care to comment? remember I have a 1 wheel drive jetta as well as my patriot. I understand winter tires are better on ice for stopping but if you take care and drive slowly (like I have) you shouldn't have a problem.
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I have all season's on the Patriot because I can't afford to run two sets of tires at this point. I did get a set of winter's for my wife's mini van, it feels like a 4x4 in the snow and ice, it really does make a big difference.
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You seem to have answered your own question. Traction on ice is much better with proper winter tires. Which means that when (not if) something unexpected happens, you'll be more likely to stop in time. Stopping is the real question for me - having a four wheel drive vehicle does not make it stop any better than your Jetta.
I would think that if you live out in the countryside, and in an area that has snowy as opposed to icy winters, All-Terrains and the like may be a workable solution for you. But if you drive in urban areas (like I do), you drive in areas filled with people. Many of these people will be complete idiots. And many of these complete idiots will do something suicidal in traffic. Some of those suicidal instances will occur in front of your Jeep. As tempted as I may personally be to just run over the idiot who runs right into my path without even looking, that would damage my bumper - so I use winter tires that give me maximal traction, allowing me to make an emergency stop before my bumper makes contact with the idiot, rather than after.
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The SR-A's were ok for me the last 2 winters on the roads. I just replaced mine with new SR-A's too. Of course I sometimes need chains for my driveway though. And I put chains on sometimes when I probably could make it without them, but it only takes a 5 minutes or so to put them on, and why take a chance getting stuck or having a tough time when it's easy enough to throw them on. I usually take them off when I get in the garage, then dry them off and put them back in the box and behind the front seats. No worries going back down the hill without them.
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Stopping. 4x4 can accelerate and turn better, but they all stop the same.
I'm in Ottawa too, and I have winter tires. The thing is until you try them, you really don't understand how much better they are.
In snow storms, the side streets in the city get plowed last, I see dip****s stuck in the city side streets every friggin time it snows hard. I also see dip****s stuck on snow covered hills they can't get up because they have all seasons on their car.
I'll admit there are few individual days that they are really required in the winter on highways and main drags as they are usually plowed and salted pretty well after a few hours. It's when it's -20 and the salt doesn't work, and the plows just pack the snow on the road that they really shine.
It's not like forking out for an extra set of tires.....you will actually get close to double the life out of your all seasons with a set of winter tires that go on for the snow season.
And it's not like it's a huge cost...., you can get snow tires for $400 that will last you 3 or 4 years. As it has already become mandatory in Quebec, you will likely see the same thing in Ontario in the coming years.
ditto Hitzy, when it comes to braking on ice it doesnt matter if you have a 4x4 with all round discs or drive a honda civic, driving at the same speed and braking, it becomes a matter of tire to road contact and body weight momemtum. Given that the jeep is probably havier than mav's jetta (and would therefore have more weight momentum) it would simply make sense to give the jeep a bonus of added grip. When the brakes are applied to come to a stop (not simpy to stear to avoid), 4x4 or 4x2 makes no difference, its all down to contact and mass.. basic physics
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All I'm saying is after 10 winters I've been fine because I drive slowly when the roads are bad. Never had a problem. My all season's have done me well (in the one wheel drive jetta) So i will continue to drive slowly when the roads are bad in my patriot (unless donuts are involved) and as the old saying goes, if it aint broke, don't fix it.
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After reading some bad reviews about the stock Firestone Affinity's I have to say I was impressed with how well they did in the snow. We got about 10 inches (maybe even more) and I even tried to spin out a few times but I think they performed well. I would rather have AT tires but I'm not about to buy new tires until these are worn out.
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