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I picked up my Patriot over the weekend, and it came with the Goodyear Wrangler SR-A tires. I was told they aren't very good in the rain... how true is this?
looks like they didnt get very good reviews on tirerack.com

Results based on 501 submissions of our online tire survey.

Would You Buy This Tire Again?
Most said: "Probably Not" (Average of 3.9 out of 10)

How Did This Tire Rank In Its Category?
40 out of 60 tires (Score of 6 vs best tire in category score of 8.6)



Miles driven on tires: 22,300
Location: Richland, WA

Driving Condition:
Mostly On Road
Driving Style: Spirited



Hands down, the worst tire Ive ever owned. Dry traction? Terrible Wet traction? Non-existent Snow and Ice? Dont even think about it. Treadwear? What a JOKE. If you have a family and youre concerned about their safety, DO NOT buy this tire, or if you already own it, GET RID of it.

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Miles driven on tires: 21,000
Location: london, on

Driving Condition:
Mostly On Road
Driving Style: Spirited



These tires are junk! They are worn out after only 21000k. They are terrible on wet surfaces, no traction at all. Im not happy to have to shell out money to buy 4 of these large size hides at such low milage. The only virtue with them is quiet operation on dry pavement. No more Goodyear tires for me. Like they say "good for one year" Im looking at Bridgestone Revos or Michilen Cross Terrain for replacements.
 
I had bought a new car in 2004, I had to get rid of the tires on it, I couldn't drive in the rain over 50 mph. I went and had my hubby put aqua tread tires. It was so much better. If mine comes with the above mentioned tires I ummm may be ditching tires. I'm still paying for the tires and wheels for hubby's Nissan.
 
My mom had them on her Liberty and they lasted a good 70k but they needed to be replaced around 60k. They started making a loud humming noise when they started wearing, too. There weren't any alignment or suspension issues, either, it was definitely the tires.
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
I always take internet reviews with a grain of salt, since it seems like more times than not, it's people who have problems who post complaints. If someone doesn't have any trouble, they usually don't bother. So it can be weighted too far to the negative.

If the tires last 30,000 miles, I'll be happy... that's been my experience with tire wear on new cars in the past. I just don't want to go out on these new tires and start slipping everywhere, or hydroplaning, just because of a little rain. I just can't imaging they're as unsafe as these reviewers say they are.
 
I have the Wrangler SR-A tires on my Pat. I cannot say how good/bad they are because I haven't had them quite a month yet and they were wet only once. OEM tires are rarely top of the line.

As for the one reviewer who indicated the tires are lousy in ice and snow, we have no idea how good and diligent the driver actually is. Some guys think that if it's an SUV they can drive like it's a summer day, that it will stick to ice and snow -- um, NO!

If I have problems with my SA's this group will be the first to know.

What is worrisome is these are Goodyear. My old Bonneville SSE had Goodyear Eagles. Really stuck well but had a really short life - really short - every 2 years. Only tire worse than Goodyear is Firestone. I can tell you horror stories with Firestones. Well my buddy can. He walked away from a crash caused by a failed Firestone. His 1973 Corvette did not survive.
 
My Patriot has yet to experience rain and may never see snow, but we took it on a back road with packed dirt and some areas of loose sand and the tires/4x2 did well. Maybe someone who has some miles on the tires (2000+) can report after their next rainstorm...
 
Mine came with the stock Firestones, so I immediately replaced them with an excellent set of Michelin HydroEdge tires.

The reviews are quite positive here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=HydroEdge

The tires that come with the Jeep (or any other new vehicle for that matter) are usually just put on there for the sake of having tires, so I much prefer a quality set of tires like the HydroEdge. (plus I got $200 off the purchase of them for trading in the Firestones. :))
 
The Michelin Hydro Edges seem to have a real good rep and come in the 215/65R17 size. My question is this... I will be ordering an 08 with the tire & wheel package, do you know if I could ask for the Michelins and pay the difference? Do dealers do this? I would rather get them installed by the dealer and have the cost included rather than buy the car, then find a tire dealer. Any advice here?

Update: I went to the Tire Rack online and actually read the reviews of the Goodyear Wrangler SR-A tires. There were enough good reviews of the tire to give me the impression that the tire was worthy of trying out. I'll still inquire about the Michelins, but I'm willing to go with the Goodyears if changing the tire to Michelin is a hassle.
 
The SR-As aren't the best tire in the world, but they aren't the worse either. I was going to replace them but I figured I already paid for them so I might as well use them, and when I looked around no companies made a 215/65R17 all-terrain style tire to replace them with.
 
Thanks Jimmy,

I appreciate the feedback.
 
I visited my dealer today and discussed. He said he could contact his tire supplier and work a trade between the Wrangler and the Michelin and I could pay the difference. That sounds fine, but I just may take it with the Goodyear tires and see how they work out for me. In any case he had a delivery of 08's yesterday and I took a look at them. He had silver, steel blue, and black, but no red. I advised him that the packages he configured were fine and I was hoping he could get me a red one. He's going to do some computer searching and see if he can locate an autostick 08 for me. If he can, I could be buying my car in a week or two. If he can't, I'll order a red and just have to wait for it. That Inferno Red is a beautiful color!
 
Do you really think either Jeep or Goodyear would be using sub-standard tires after the Ford Firestone mess?
Did you think that in the 21st Century we would be worrying about companies using lead paint for children's toys after knowing about the danger for decades?? Bottom line = $$ no matter how good the company. (I'm not disparaging Jeep, but I know I have hated the Wranglers on my Cherokee for years now. I never felt they could keep up with the power of the 4.0 engine in any weather plus they're noisy)
 
For what it's worth. On my second day of Patriot ownership I replaced my wheels and tires. I replaced the stock 16" steel wheels with 16" alloys and 215 70 R16 Michelin LTX M/S. I do live in Colorado and will be using my Patriot mostly for snowboarding. (I do have a motorcycle for summer.)

Anyway - I love these michelins.
 
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