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Discussion starter · #21 ·
That is about as simplistic as me saying, "you are the fed." Nice bumper sticker. Let's see how simplistic we can get. The fed is the government, we the people are the government, we the people have already decided to do this through your elected official. Welcome to democracy.

Of course that is about as much non-sense as what you just wrote.

Well not quite.....:icon_rolleyes: :D
 
For those that never read the constitution we are NOT a democracy

Unfortunately capital hill is inhabited by lunatics pushing to bring everyones standard of living down to 3rd world levels. Cash for clunkers great program, except for the fact that the government has to take that cash from another tax payer to provide it to the clunker owner. Welcome to the redistribution of wealth. It has never worked when tried before so what makes you think it will work now?

As for taking the cash certainly do it. Just remember when you do it had to be forcefully taken from some one else.
 
As for taking the cash certainly do it. Just remember when you do it had to be forcefully taken from some one else.
Actually No...After paying taxes all of my adult life I am finally getting something back for it. This money was forcefully taken from Me and I am getting a very small portion of it back.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
For those that never read the constitution we are NOT a democracy
Um, as long as 'majority rules', then we're a democracy. Last I checked, ALL the members of Congress and the President were elected by THE MAJORITY.

If you don't like what you see Congress doing, then vote for someone differently and encourage others to do so as well.

I can appreciate your concern and your opinions. Just don't FORCE them on those that disagree with you. :smiley_thumbs_up:
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
My parents are looking to trade in their barely-running Cherokee (95) with 275,000 miles on it. Book value is $900, and it is the 4x4 4.0 so it gets about 13mpg. Sending this article to them..

That would make them GREAT CANDIDATES for this program. Keep a Jeep in the family and go get a Patriot! :smiley_thumbs_up:
 
Hey everyone, as you can see I'm new here. I've always liked the Patriot since it came out in 2007 but figured I would go with an economical hatchback over a Patriot because of gas mileage. However, I didn't realize the Patriot got even better gas mileage than I thought!!!

Now I was looking to participate in the Cash for Clunkers and was heavily leaning towards the Honda Fit until I found out Jeep was offering double your clunker. Now I'm VERY interested in the Patriot. I just cant figure out what my old clunker will net me. I have a 1996 Ford Explorer XLT 4X4 Automatic that gets combined 17 mpg under the official fuel economy site. However, since it's a 4X4 and I'm not technically trading it in for another SUV is there any way that I can still get the full ($4500 x 2) rebate or just ($3500 x 2) rebate? I'm interested in the Jeep Patriot with automatic transmission because of long commutes. I'm trying to figure out what category vehicle my old Explorer is but it seems it fits under two categories which would get me different amounts. If anyone could clarify that would be great, thanks!!!

p.s. Any recommendations on the most fuel efficent automatic version of the Patriot? I'm guess it would be the Patriot 4x2 2.0 CVT which I believe gets an official 25 mpg.

Sorry for the rant!
 
Incentive or not... I love my Jeep and would buy it again in a heartbeat. I wouldn't think twice about buying another one for the wife if my finances would permit it.
 
Hey everyone, as you can see I'm new here. I've always liked the Patriot since it came out in 2007 but figured I would go with an economical hatchback over a Patriot because of gas mileage. However, I didn't realize the Patriot got even better gas mileage than I thought!!!

Now I was looking to participate in the Cash for Clunkers and was heavily leaning towards the Honda Fit until I found out Jeep was offering double your clunker. Now I'm VERY interested in the Patriot. I just cant figure out what my old clunker will net me. I have a 1996 Ford Explorer XLT 4X4 Automatic that gets combined 17 mpg under the official fuel economy site. However, since it's a 4X4 and I'm not technically trading it in for another SUV is there any way that I can still get the full ($4500 x 2) rebate or just ($3500 x 2) rebate? I'm interested in the Jeep Patriot with automatic transmission because of long commutes. I'm trying to figure out what category vehicle my old Explorer is but it seems it fits under two categories which would get me different amounts. If anyone could clarify that would be great, thanks!!!

p.s. Any recommendations on the most fuel efficent automatic version of the Patriot? I'm guess it would be the Patriot 4x2 2.0 CVT which I believe gets an official 25 mpg.

Sorry for the rant!
Can't answer most of your questions, but I think the 4x2 Pat and the FDI 4x4 get very similar gas mileage, so if you need 4x4, I think that is still in play. The FDII 4x4 would not be the good choice.

From what I have read I don't think there is much if any improvement in fuel efficiency from the 2.4 to the 2.0.

Take a look through some of the fuel economy threads, and I am sure some of the other helpful folks on this site can give you better insight.
 
Thanks for the reply. When I went on the official Jeep site and filled out the do you qualify option, this is what I got back:

Available Credit $4,500
Vehicle
MPG
MSRP
Patriot Limited 4x4
4 Cylinder, 2.4 Liter
21
$23,980
Patriot Sport 4x4
4 Cylinder, 2.4 Liter
21
$19,290
Patriot Limited FWD
4 Cylinder, 2.4 Liter
23
$22,230
Patriot Sport FWD
4 Cylinder, 2.0 Liter
25
$18,440
Patriot Sport FWD
4 Cylinder, 2.4 Liter
23
$17,540


Available Credit $3,500
Vehicle
MPG
MSRP
No eligible vehicles found

According to this, I'd be able to get the full $4500 which means I could double it to $9,000! :banana: At least I hope so and I'm not getting my hopes up for nothing haha.
 
According to this, I'd be able to get the full $4500 which means I could double it to $9,000! :banana: At least I hope so and I'm not getting my hopes up for nothing haha.
I don't think so, sounds like you have a shot at the double deal, as long as you can find a vehicle to purchase.

Hope it works out.
 
I'm going to a Jeep dealer to test drive today so I'll sit down with them and see what they have to tell me. I'm just going to tell them to give me the best deal that I can get so I can decide between the Patriot and the Honda Fit. Right now, with my clunker, I'll be able to get a Fit Sport for $13,500 out the door. If I can somehow get a nice Patriot for less I'll go with Jeep. We'll see...
 
Thanks for the reply. When I went on the official Jeep site and filled out the do you qualify option, this is what I got back:

Available Credit $4,500
Vehicle
MPG
MSRP
Patriot Limited 4x4
4 Cylinder, 2.4 Liter
21
$23,980
Patriot Sport 4x4
4 Cylinder, 2.4 Liter
21
$19,290
Patriot Limited FWD
4 Cylinder, 2.4 Liter
23
$22,230
Patriot Sport FWD
4 Cylinder, 2.0 Liter
25
$18,440
Patriot Sport FWD
4 Cylinder, 2.4 Liter
23
$17,540


Available Credit $3,500
Vehicle
MPG
MSRP
No eligible vehicles found

According to this, I'd be able to get the full $4500 which means I could double it to $9,000! :banana: At least I hope so and I'm not getting my hopes up for nothing haha.
Could you imagine how much you could've had if the Fed didn't steal the cash from you in the first place?
 
I'm going to a Jeep dealer to test drive today so I'll sit down with them and see what they have to tell me. I'm just going to tell them to give me the best deal that I can get so I can decide between the Patriot and the Honda Fit. Right now, with my clunker, I'll be able to get a Fit Sport for $13,500 out the door. If I can somehow get a nice Patriot for less I'll go with Jeep. We'll see...
For what it is worth if you go to the patriot page on the Jeep webiste right now, it says you can get the $4500 from the government vouhcer (if you qualify) plus $3500 in customer cash. I don't for sure if that means you can't get a 100% match, but even $8000 off is nothing to sneeze at.

Good luck no matter which way you go.
 
Thanks for the replies. I'm off to my local Jeep dealer first for a test drive and a sit down to go over prices, incentives, options, etc. My hope is they dont want me to leave when I tell them of my interest with Honda and blow me away with an offer. I'll update how it goes, thanks again!
 
Hey everyone- newbie here. I have a 1996 Ford Explorer that gets 15-16 MPG on average, will be using that for the Cash for Clunkers program in exchange for a new 2009 4x4 Patriot. Looks like $4500 courtesy of the government, plus $3500 from the Chrysler incentive. I'm picking it up on Tuesday... can't wait!!!!
 
Hey everyone- newbie here. I have a 1996 Ford Explorer that gets 15-16 MPG on average, will be using that for the Cash for Clunkers program in exchange for a new 2009 4x4 Patriot. Looks like $4500 courtesy of the government, plus $3500 from the Chrysler incentive. I'm picking it up on Tuesday... can't wait!!!!
Fantastic!! I am happy for you, you are really getting a good deal. It is nice to see somebody really benefit from something. Even though we all don't benefit from what our government does sometimes, it is nice to see somebody really benefit and get a break once in a while. If you are like many of us, you will really enjoy your patriot. There is a ton of good info on this site, and many friendly folks.
 
Although the "double your..." cash for the Patriot is only $3500, you may still be able to get another $1k if you are currently driving another Chrysler product like I am. Going tomorrow afternoon to try and strike a deal. :)
 
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