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well dam. Im definitely not going to go with 245's. i don't have to use a wheel spacer. however with this patriot stock ive gone up some pretty retarded hills. hills that no reasonably intelligent person take a brand new vehicle up lol. However I am an avid fishermen, and this jeep should be able to take me any place ill ever want to go, to do some fishing. except well out on the water.
 
Would adding larger wheels void the Lifetime Chrysler service contract?

But even stock, our '14 Patriot Sport FD1 feels pretty darn good off-road. We took it down some logging roads that were heavily rutted and the vehicle felt confident. I'd never even try those roads in a regular car.

In another forum I was talking about our Patriot, and some moron responded that "Patriots are jokes; my Subaru Forester is 5x more capable off road!" Um, sure buddy, if you're LUCKY, it might be equal to a Patriot off-road. But if you want to compare apples to apples, take a FDII Patriot/Compass and it will be more off-road worthy than any Sube. I say apples to apples because a FDII MK is the same price or less than a Forester/Outback, so it's more fair to compare a FDII to a Subie. Not that a FDI can't stand up to a Subie.
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
dude ive take my patriot stock!! mind you, through a pretty retarded trail. a trail your not supposed to take brand new vehicles on. the patriot aced it man. i almost got stuck several times. But every time that Low Gear with the Brake lock Differental pulled me through it.
 
whats the big difference from a Trail Rated to a non trail rated? would i still be able to have fun off road?
 
whats the big difference from a Trail Rated to a non trail rated? would i still be able to have fun off road?
There are a few big differences:

1) lower gearing, meaning that more torque is used to turn the wheels at low speeds. meaning more traction
2) More aggressive brake lock diffs. This means that when one tire is turning faster than another, on the same axle, the brakes kick in on that wheel to send power to the other wheel on that axle. its like a pseudo locker/limited slip.
3) Hill decent control - something that I found very handy a few times.

can you have fun in a non trail rated? yes, and you can go further as well getting better fuel economy.

can you push things further in a trail rated? yes...
 
There are a few big differences:

1) lower gearing, meaning that more torque is used to turn the wheels at low speeds. meaning more traction
2) More aggressive brake lock diffs. This means that when one tire is turning faster than another, on the same axle, the brakes kick in on that wheel to send power to the other wheel on that axle. its like a pseudo locker/limited slip.
3) Hill decent control - something that I found very handy a few times.

can you have fun in a non trail rated? yes, and you can go further as well getting better fuel economy.

can you push things further in a trail rated? yes...
ok. thanks. im not planning on going out and doing hard trails. im just incase ifind a road that looks fun
 
Discussion starter · #15 ·
Definitely the Freedom Drive 2 Package provides a lot! Engine oil cooler, 130amp Alternator, Hell they even through in "Heavy Duty Trans axle &/or Engine oil Cooler"(they look like radiators at the front of the vehicle.) ,You'll even get Steel skid plates over your engine/Trans axle , Gas tank, and driveshaft, and to buckle you all up you get a CVT featuring a low off road gear providing additional torque values suck as a 19:1 Gear Reduction, Pushing your patriot to I believe if i am correct, almost 200 FT. LBS of torque. Witch is awesome considering the 2.4l I4 DOHC only produces around 165 .FT LBS of torque, I believe. This Increased Torque coupled with Jeeps Famous BLD System, Makes the patriot an actual contender off road. See my old rig was a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport 4.0L V6 pushing 205 hp, 4x4 of coarse. I climbed some retarded **** in that ford. I actually killed it from being to ruff off-road. But What I've noticed, is my patriot clearing similar obstacles as my Ford , by simply being so impossibly efficient off-road. Moving slow, In my ford i had a transfer case, i usto rocket up huge hills at 20mph in 4hi, bouncing around and breaking everything. The Jeep just simply crawls up any obstacle i put in front of it. IDE say the Jeep Patriot doesn't get the Kudos it Deserves. I mean I know my jeep could out wheel any 2016 Subaru. Im Amazing because i do all this without even stressing the Jeep so much. I have been thoroughly impressed since I made my purchase.
 
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For the Record. The Jeep Patriot is a car. Not a Suv, Its Clearly a car, and competes with suck. Even in its current class Compact Crossover Utility Vehicle, As far as 4x4 Capilities, the Jeep Patriot only looses to..... dare I say.... The Jeep Renegade. The Jeep Renegade is a more equiped and capable off-road vehicle. Now its obviously argueable. However the Jeep patriot Was top of its class when it comes to measuring offroad, until the Jeep Renegade came out. (there the same dam thing) Anyways, This Jeep is ridiculed by SUV and Truck owners alike, because its Contending with them. Obviously to a degree of coarse. I will Say that Im 100% comfortable that the Jeep Patriot with Take me any were ill ever want or need to go.
 
For the Record. The Jeep Patriot is a car. Not a Suv, Its Clearly a car, and competes with suck. Even in its current class Compact Crossover Utility Vehicle, As far as 4x4 Capilities, the Jeep Patriot only looses to..... dare I say.... The Jeep Renegade. The Jeep Renegade is a more equiped and capable off-road vehicle. Now its obviously argueable. However the Jeep patriot Was top of its class when it comes to measuring offroad, until the Jeep Renegade came out. (there the same dam thing) Anyways, This Jeep is ridiculed by SUV and Truck owners alike, because its Contending with them. Obviously to a degree of coarse. I will Say that Im 100% comfortable that the Jeep Patriot with Take me any were ill ever want or need to go.
Eh-eh-eh, it's a Jeep. A small Jeep, but a Jeep nonetheless. Simple, rugged, utilitarian, hated by Cadillac-lovers around the world. And a Renegayde would to little(if any) better than a FD2. Fiat isn't known for off-road, unless you count the Cherokar.
 
And a Renegayde would to little(if any) better than a FD2.
Unless the Renegade is a Trailhawk it likely wouldn't be able to keep up with a FDI. That has become the annoying trend for newer Jeep models (except the Wrangler), that you have to go to the Trailhawk/Off-Road package model to get even half-decent off road abilities, while with the MKs (and older Jeep models in general) were still reasonably capable in any 4X4 trim (and to some extent even FWD) even without FDII.
 
^Exactly. But videos of the Trailsquawk Renegayde have shown it to be barely as capable as a FD2 Patriot. And the FD2 Patriot has a proven tranny under it, unlike the explosion risk under the trailsquawk.
 
I am trying to decihper this.....

Anyways, the MKs are surprisingly capable off-road. They still offer excellent approach and eparture angles and roughly 1/2 inch more ground clearance than a comparable Renegade and more clearance than any other CUV out there. The bigest advantages the Renegade has are it's select terrain modes and more conventional auto. Once everything is said and done though, it really offers very little, if any, over the FD2 MKs in overall ability. In fact, many of the things the media ciushes about in the Renegade as if it is something new, was already in the MKs in 2007 (ie: BLDs, the disconnecting rear axle for FE, hill descent control, low range, etc, etc).
 
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