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Threw over a thousand pounds of bricks in the back of the pat today. Did fairly well. She was a bit slower and took a little bit more distance to stop, but had more than enough room for 60 pretty big retaining wall bricks. She also was a bit saggy too. I'm glad I put the red sheet down first though because I would have had a big mess of tiny rock chunks everywhere. Just a tip for anyone that is going to haul anything dirty. I put the wrapped the sheet around the 2 headrests and then tucked the other end of the sheet under the plastic spare tire cover and it worked out pretty good.

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don't want to be the one who is negative.....

but if you'd had a crash with all that loose cargo, you'd be dead... and anyone who was in front of your windscreen would also be dead (as the bricks travelled through the screen and hit them at speed)

just my 2c

maybe think before you do that again, maybe hire a trailer and for $40 you'd be insuring yourself against death....i know my life is worth a hire of a trailer....
 
I once hauled these type of bricks in my old base level Ford Ranger. I had more bricks, but it didn't take much to make the poor truck bottom out! I agree, a trailer would be a better route.
 
Nice haul mpm. But as harold mentioned, I`d be vary of making any sharp turns or stops with that load. Maybe one of those tie down nets would help secure the cargo?

Imagine - they`ve come up with a new law here saying that when transporting your pet in you car (dog, cat, goat, whatewer :) ) it either has to be in a cage, in the cargo area behind a net or tied down on the seat with a special harness that snaps into existing passenger seat belt anchors ... :doh:
Do you have any such laws in your countries? :confused: Can`t imagine my poor dog being tied down like that on a 3 hour (or more) trip unable to move, jump down below the seat and up again in a while like he has always been used to ...
 
based on the pic

so how did the plastic lid (floor, spare tire cover) hold up to the weight? any cracking or permanent bending?
did look like tire cover did bend in the middle,
wonder how the stock shocks hold up,
On my XJ i used to haul small boxes for work
each box would way 30-50 lbs, i woul fit anywhere from 40-60 boxes,
occassionally surpassing 2000 lbs in the back,
i went through shocks faster, but XJ handled it fine,
 
Many years ago, living in Sherwood Park, Alberta, we had a "neighbourhood truck", an ancient 50 something Chevy half-ton, owned by a neighbour, Denny, who left the key in his milk-chute. Anyone was welcome to use the truck, as long as you brought it back with a full tank.

One day, I needed some gravel for a landscaping project, so I went and got the truck and headed for the gravel quarry along the river. I'd never been there before, or bought gravel before. The guy at the gate asked, "How much do you need?" I had no idea, but told him the area and depth I wanted, and he told me, "You'll need about a yard and a half." He directed me to the pile where a front-end loader was waiting. The driver scooped up a yard and a half of gravel, which was a heaping scoop, moved it over the truck bed and dumped it. The weight hit the truck, the rear springs bent concave and bottomed out. Shocks were squished closed. The tires looked flat. I asked how much a yard and a half weighed, and was told, "'Bout two-three tons."

The truck barely moved, and when I got on the short stretch of highway home, I couldn't get out of second gear, and top speed was about twenty. The temp gauge pinned at the top. I got it home, howling and boiling, and started shoveling the load out onto my yard. I think I set some kind of world record, getting the load out of there, before Denny came home and saw what I'd done.

Incredibly, the old Chevy survived, and gave a couple of years more service as the neighbourhood truck.

That was my hard lesson in over-loading a vehicle.
 
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so how did the plastic lid (floor, spare tire cover) hold up to the weight? any cracking or permanent bending?

With the load the plastic lid did very well. No cracks or even scratches. It did bow a little bit, but it sprung back to level with the bricks off. I was also very careful about turning, but the bricks stayed put for the most part.
 
I'd be less concerned about flying bricks, and more concerned about damage to the vehicle or increased stopping distance.

My own logic (not sure if its valid or not) says that the brakes can only apply force 'X' to slow down the vehicle. With less weight, it will slow down much faster and therefore let a loose object fly forward faster. So carrying a single 50lb brick, unsecured, may actually be more likely to cause the brick to go flying.


But, you did it, you survived... and hopefully no damage to the Pat. 1000lbs is definitely beyond design specs. But it's your vehicle :)
 
by my own logic/experience

I'd be less concerned about flying bricks, and more concerned about damage to the vehicle or increased stopping distance.

My own logic (not sure if its valid or not) says that the brakes can only apply force 'X' to slow down the vehicle. With less weight, it will slow down much faster and therefore let a loose object fly forward faster. So carrying a single 50lb brick, unsecured, may actually be more likely to cause the brick to go flying.


But, you did it, you survived... and hopefully no damage to the Pat. 1000lbs is definitely beyond design specs. But it's your vehicle :)
while objects may not go flying, they move easier,
as they have the weight of the other objects behind them,
when i loaded my xj, i had to put up a board behind the drivers seat to stop boxes from banging the back of my head,
i would load it to the roof,
and even on gentle stops boxes would come flying to the front,
 
Many years ago, living in Sherwood Park, Alberta, we had a "neighbourhood truck", an ancient 50 something Chevy half-ton, owned by a neighbour, Denny, who left the key in his milk-chute. Anyone was welcome to use the truck, as long as you brought it back with a full tank.

One day, I needed some gravel for a landscaping project, so I went and got the truck and headed for the gravel quarry along the river. I'd never been there before, or bought gravel before. The guy at the gate asked, "How much do you need?" I had no idea, but told him the area and depth I wanted, and he told me, "You'll need about a yard and a half." He directed me to the pile where a front-end loader was waiting. The driver scooped up a yard and a half of gravel, which was a heaping scoop, moved it over the truck bed and dumped it. The weight hit the truck, the rear springs bent concave and bottomed out. Shocks were squished closed. The tires looked flat. I asked how much a yard and a half weighed, and was told, "'Bout two-three tons."

The truck barely moved, and when I got on the short stretch of highway home, I couldn't get out of second gear, and top speed was about twenty. The temp gauge pinned at the top. I got it home, howling and boiling, and started shoveling the load out onto my yard. I think I set some kind of world record, getting the load out of there, before Denny came home and saw what I'd done.

Incredibly, the old Chevy survived, and gave a couple of years more service as the neighbourhood truck.

That was my hard lesson in over-loading a vehicle.
No wonder you want to coax me to move rocks and stumps and stuff!!!
 
mpm,
I did the same thing with my 07' sport 4x4 several months ago, but with Cinderblocks and filled almost to the roof (It was probably about the same weight since the cinderblocks have large holes). I was very impressed with the Patriot though. It was obvious that it had a good deal of weight in it, but it still handled, accelerated, and breaked remarkably well. The plastic spare cover did bend a lot with that much weight on it, but it came right back after the weight was off and did not warp at all. The only evidence that I have that I moved cement cinderblocks is the scratches on the plastic and small pieces that fell into the spare wheel well (I was moving the blocks for work and didn't have anything to cover up the inside).
 
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