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Drinking game:
1 shot everytime someone says "real Jeep", "ugly", or makes a reference to FCA ruining everything.

I think it looks badass and I hope they make it and sell millions of them.
 
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Oh, the hate is coming now... I can feel it descending on this thread now...

Drinking game:
1 shot everytime someone says "real Jeep", "ugly", or makes a reference to FCA ruining everything.

I think it looks badass and I hope they make it and sell millions of them.
I haven't seen rosso online yet this morning. So it may be a minute.

It actually looks REALLY good. My main complaint with the past few new jeeps (compass/cherokee/renegade) as far as looks go is the stinking rear end. They don't know how to design the back half of a jeep. This is simple. Cut it off and put a truck bed on it!

Again, 2 speed PTU or a transfer case on this puppy, and I'll buy one today. It doesn't even have to have a massive pay load. I need a truck, I've been shopping for one for a while. I need to be able to carry around things like bricks, and plywood and stuff, but then the rest of the time It would be a DD that would need to get good fuel economy. This would fit the bill perfectly, especially with the drop top.
 
i like the renegade for what it is,
decent small 4x4, for light offroading, if i was in the market for such i would heavily consider the renegade
I dont like the comanche version
dont like the looks, yes its ugly, drink up, and dont feel engine is enough to power those wheels
 
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The concept is a diesel, so it should have enough guts to get those 32" tires spinning just fine.

I think I like it because I really really like small tucks. I want to replace my infiniti with a small truck, but used ones might as well be made out of gold for what people are asking for them, the new colorado is NOT a small truck, and frontier/tacoma are very long in the tooth, and so its a hard justification for spending that on a new truck.
 
The concept is a diesel, so it should have enough guts to get those 32" tires spinning just fine.

I think I like it because I really really like small tucks. I want to replace my infiniti with a small truck, but used ones might as well be made out of gold for what people are asking for them, the new colorado is NOT a small truck, and frontier/tacoma are very long in the tooth, and so its a hard justification for spending that on a new truck.
What about the Ridgeline?
 
Drinking game:
1 shot everytime someone says "real Jeep", "ugly", or makes a reference to FCA ruining everything.
that thing is ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly!! (I expect all follow up comments to be slurred)


But really, it is. I like the overall idea of small truck, convertible top (preferably without a roll bar), and some offroad capability. The problem with this is the front half doesn't match the back half. The front is all bubbly and round, the rear is squared off and "tough". I'd want the spare tire moved to the side of the vehicle where it belongs, but other than that, I'd buy that thing based on the rear end alone. Of course once I saw the front I'd be pissed and demand my money back.
 
that thing is ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly!! (I expect all follow up comments to be slurred)
Now wait yuo jus' a minnit... (hic) I can't find my liverrr, i think it ran awsy scared.

But really, it is. I like the overall idea of small truck, convertible top (preferably without a roll bar), and some offroad capability. The problem with this is the front half doesn't match the back half. The front is all bubbly and round, the rear is squared off and "tough". I'd want the spare tire moved to the side of the vehicle where it belongs, but other than that, I'd buy that thing based on the rear end alone. Of course once I saw the front I'd be pissed and demand my money back.
I think it's not that ugly, certainly less ugly than a pre-facelifted Compass. I do see your point about the inconsistency in the design language between the front and rear tho (cannot ever unsee it now, thanks). And I'm not sure how I like the step-side bed - I want to see a version with a hard top and a smooth-side before I give my final judgement, as this looks very much conceptual, and in that sense, I like it a lot.

I think, more than anything, the proportions are DEAD ON. Looks-wise, it looks like a great mini-truck design.

I'm not gonna get into the FWD "truck" debate, and just leave it at that.

The concept is a diesel, so it should have enough guts to get those 32" tires spinning just fine.
I'd like to know how they crammed 32" tires onto a Renegade with only 2" of lift (which i'm assuming is the absolute, CV-busting limit).
 
I HATE the look of the old ridgeline, but I like the look of the new one that is coming out, but it isn't out for a while and I have no idea what it will cost.
I'm right there with you. Although after driving a ridgeline (2014, I think they had done updates to it in 2013 or so) I really liked it for an urban truck. I think "urban truck" is very key. It's not going to replace a Ram Power Wagon that lives in my hypothetical garage, but it's great for a homeowner doing the commute thing and grabbing a load of soil on the way home. It's not powerful enough to be fun and it just sorta works, but for an appliance type vehicle it works very well. I'm sold on the FWD/AWD architecture of it, it's good enough and is something I'm more comfortable with in snow and ice than a traditional 4x4 like other trucks. Aside from a new body (which I really like), the 2017 doesn't seem that different to me. A bit more power, maybe they stiffened the frame or something to up the tow rating which would be a good thing. I'm truly holding judgement on it until I see one on that lot but it's got a lot of positives going for it in my book. The biggest negative of the old one IMO was the poor (relative) fuel mileage. You can't argue that you're going to buy a Ridgeline for MPG when the F-150 beats in this category, and pretty much every other, but I'd much rather drive a Ridgeline through town than I would any full size truck.

Anyways; it'll be here in the fall so it's not that far away. Prices start at $32,500.
 
Did they finally release the price? that price makes me sad.... its way to far out of my budget...
The $32,500 is the lowest rumor I have seen. My bet is that by the time you get it decently equipped it's going to be $40k. Honda has always been proud of their cars, the Ridgeline seems to be doubly so. They appear to hold their value well though from what I've seen on craigslist around here. Maybe a lease payment on it isn't so bad if you're into that kind of thing.
 
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The $32,500 is the lowest rumor I have seen. My bet is that by the time you get it decently equipped it's going to be $40k. Honda has always been proud of their cars, the Ridgeline seems to be doubly so. They appear to hold their value well though from what I've seen on craigslist around here. Maybe a lease payment on it isn't so bad if you're into that kind of thing.
Not really... My goal is to be debt free entirely as fast as possible. The only things we owe money on are my wife's car and the house, Wife's car has a few months left on it, and we'll have it paid off. (actually could have it paid off sooner, like next month if we didn't have such high medical bills from the birth of our child in January, thanks "affordable care act").

My car is paid for, but its not far off 200k miles, so I'm starting to run into 200k mile issues on a luxury vehicle. I could buy another $3-5k car, but it would be high mileage again, I would be willing to buy something with less than 100k miles and around $8K in price, as I could pay it off in a few months. for a brand new car, I could go up to ~20k, as it would take me 18 months to pay it off, but there is nothing I want in that price range. The nissan and the chevy start at that price, but good luck actually finding one in stock anywhere...
 
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